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Why don't we drop the 1941 title?

  • Chris Walsh

    OK, I'm going to try and steer this conversation back to the topic at hand. If you all would rather go after each other we'll shut it down and move on to other things.

    The service that credited Alabama with the national championship was the the Houlgate System (1927-58), a mathematical rating system developed by Dale Houlgate of Los Angeles, which was syndicated in newspapers and published in Illustrated Football and Football Thesaurus (1946-58). It's basically a computer poll before there were computers. Houlgate named champions for more than 70 years dating back to1885.

    The NCAA does include Houlgate on its list of champions named by various services.

    As for 1966, two services have declared Alabama the best team that year, but both retroactively.

    The first was Berryman (1990-present): Clyde Berryman of Washington D.C. devised the Quality Point Rating System that takes into account strength of schedule, won-loss record, points scored and points allowed. It also balances each victory, so an early-season game figures as prominently as the last game of the season. It predated national champions from 1940-89.

    The other Sagarin's ELO-Chess formula.

    Sagarin Ratings (1978-present): Jeff Sagarin was only 10 when he started ranking teams and his system is now used to rank everything from basketball to NASCAR and golf. The MIT mathematics graduate created a formula that considers strength of schedule, margin of victory and the location of the game. Sagarin’s ratings have been published in USA Today since 1985, but his ELO-Chess formula, in which only winning and losing matter, is used to compile the Bowl Championship Series.

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  • Chris Walsh

    As for the question about titles ....

    NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS SINCE 1936 (AP/coaches/BCS)
    1. Alabama 10
    2. Notre Dame 8
    3. Oklahoma 7
    4. Southern California 6*
    5. Miami 5
    (tie) Nebraska 5
    (tie) Ohio State 5
    8. Minnesota 4
    (tie) Texas 4
    10. Florida 3
    (tie) LSU 3
    12. Army 2
    (tie) Auburn 2
    (tie) Florida State 2
    (tie) Michigan 2
    (tie) Michigan State 2
    (tie) Penn State 2
    (tie) Pittsburgh 2
    (tie) Tennessee 2
    20. Brigham Young 1
    (tie) Clemson 1
    (tie) Colorado 1
    (tie) Georgia 1
    (tie) Georgia Tech 1
    (tie) Maryland 1
    (tie) Syracuse 1
    (tie) Texas A&M 1
    (tie) Texas Christian 1
    (tie) UCLA 1
    (tie) Washington 1
    *Does not include vacated national title

    This post was edited by Chris Walsh 18 months ago

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