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Updating Kyle Field...
COLLEGE STATION — When Richard Box helped celebrate the Aggies' stunning first sprint through the Southeastern Conference this season, Texas AM president R. Bowen Loftin, and regents approval.
This post was edited by BamaTusks 16 months ago
This team has the support & finances to really take off in the SEC.
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Seems to have helped recruiting.
One thing has become very clear - if it wasn't already (duh) seriously, it has become even more of a separating factor... facilities. If you want to be on par, as best you can, with the big boys, you have to have the facilities to compete. Not just in seating numbers, but in extra income aspects as well. Luxury boxes, sky levels etc. etc. That is where the NFL game has blown up in recent years with new stadiums. It has become all about maximizing the dollars per sq. foot. This has come in the way of fan experiences. Premium sections. The more you give us fans - the more they can charge us
It has become an arms race so to speak - but this is not bullets and bombs. Its stadium amenities and technology.
Texas having like 8 scholarship seniors helped recruiting as well...
A&M is having a really good in recruiting basically none of the 20 or so players they have committed from the state of Texas were recruited by the University of Texas.
This post was edited by manbearpig7 16 months ago
Either way, however everything's played out, I'd say that they pretty much timed things perfectly, in terms of having things work out exactly at the right time for them to experience a whole lot of good fortune, starting with receiving & accepting an invitation into the SEC.
One of the varied reasons aTm was an excellent choice for our conference to add has to do with the massive amount of resources they have within their reach. History will one day reflect that their decision to accept Slive's offer to join the SEC was the tipping point to the awakening of the sleeping giant that is aTm. They will supplant UT as the preeminent powerhouse of the state of Texas. I'm not a homer, nor an apologist for them - just a realist.
Don't think so....
A&M has resources sure but relative to Baylor I guess certainly not relative to Texas. Texas has underachieved for a few years and really has been somewhat of a perennial underachiever but they can still basically pick and chose the recruits they want from Texas on the previous years National signing day. I don't necessarily think they made great choices this year but make no mistake, Texas is still where the kids want to go. College station sucks compared to Austin and really other than the SEC A&M has no real advantages over Texas. I think in the long run UT will continue to be more prominent.
"I think in the long run UT will continue to be more prominent"
In what way? If getting the best recruits out of one state is more prominent UT can keep it. A&M is on their way up big time and won't be compared to UT for long. Comparisons will be to other big time SEC teams as it should be. Personally, I think they are a great fit for our conference.
Texas has underachieved for the most part...for the last 4 decades..
In every way....
They don't play anymore but they have played every year for the last 15 years and Texas won 11 out of those 15 games. Texas finished ahead of A&M in the final AP poll in all but two years of the past 10. Fans ALWAYS overreact to one year assuming that the entire world has changed and blah blah blah. Maybe true but I just doubt it.
In my view Texas will continue to be a better program than A&M over the next 10 years as they were for the last 10 years.
So, you've been to College Station, lately? I have on several occasions in the past few years, and it's thriving - I mean, lots of campus expansion going on. That, coupled with the SEC component translates to the future preeminence I asserted earlier.
UT, on the other hand, is becoming more and more isolated, being in a second-rate conference, one that its members resent them for their disproportate revenue splits, not to mention the LHN - they're holding on to a boat anchor to hell. It'll be fun to watch the transfer of state power.
Kyle Field must need it, because the most recent ranking of SEC facilities put A&M's athletic facilities at #10 in the conference, if I remember correctly.
I would agree if Texas could actually win the weak Big 12. LOL A&M along with being in the SEC & having a much better coach. Is moving on up.
I think that if you assume Texas will continue with the Mack Brown show for the next 10 years and just sit back and watch the program dig themselves deeper and deeper into mediocrity then you guys are certainly right....
I seriously doubt they do that. Let's be honest, Texas is the largest athletic department in the country and has been that way for quite some time now. They are a monster and every year bring in $50 million more than A&M in revenue. They would have their pick of virtually any coach in the country (not named Nick Saban or Urban Meyer) if they decided to fire Mack and could conceivably pay almost any price.
Generally things revert back to who has the most built-in advantages. May not be the case here.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by manbearpig7 16 months ago
You know your characterization of the Big XII notwithstanding, Texas is the largest athletic department in the country (has been basically every year for some time now) and is growing rapidly. If you see that as some sort of inferior position then OK....I just disagree.
I have not been to college station in years I would admit but I am Austin once or twice a year for work. I have not heard a single A&M fan even try to make that comparison in a favorable way.
This subject isn't something I'm passionate about. So, I don't have to deliver the coup de gras (not that my argument approaches it), but the subject line is about the Aggies preparing to one-up Big Bro by making Kyle Field bigger and nicer than DKR. I have no doubt it will be just that, until the next round of "stadium war."
The real statement made by aTm is that UT will no longer be the state's best by default. They're going to have to earn it in a Texas sized battle that could go on, ad infinitum.
I am not passionate about it either. I just politely disagreed with your point of view that A&M will "supplant UT as the preeminent powerhouse of the state of Texas". I doubt that will happen. It might, hell I actually hope it does for the SEC, I just seriously doubt it.
If there some data or information in your argument that I have not considered I would love to hear it, if not then we have both made our points and can move on agreeing to disagree.
No I don't assume that at all. But how was Texas doing before they hired Mack Brown? Yes they have the money & resources to get a very good coach. But that coach still has to change the culture from the current staff. All the while A&M has an established coach. & are playing in the best conference in the land. JMO...but I think A&M one up's Texas by moving to the SEC.
All good points. Texas really has underachieved forever though even with that recently they have been a lot better than A&M except for this year.
Surely they can't continue to suck with so many built-in advantages can they?
I would say yes they could. Because they still don't even dominate that weak league they play in.
I don't know. We call it underachieving but in the most recent decade they went 96-23 (.810) averaging 9.5 wins per season with two Big XII championships and one NC. It's not great relative to what it should be but it's not Texas A&M either averaging 6.5 wins a season and not sniffing a championship of any kind.
I agree with zigzag here. If UT continues to put sub-par teams by their standards on the field and if aTm remains as competitive as they were this year they are going to start taking many recruits away from UT. This isn't an Ala Aub type charging of the guard in the 80's that could be taken back with ease as we did because aTm is in the SEC and if the SEC continues to be the breeding ground for most NFL talent and national titles I can definitely see it happening.
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