BOL Round Table

everybody go out and do volunteer work this wweekend and help an old lady cross the street

maybe the good lord will give us a break

Yes bubble teams are losing but they are teams behind us or not projected to be in the field. No teams projected to be in the field have lost and in fact they have strengthened their cases last night. You need projected teams in to have bad losses. All four last four-in have better resumes than us.

Sigh, there is 0% chance that we get an at large bid unless we win the SEC Tourney. Some of you need to really pay attention to the teams that get the last spots in ever year. Truth is even if we had beaten Ole Miss and Georgia this weekend, and made the SEC Tourney finals we would have still be on the outside looking in. Florida was our last slim hope to do something that would have given us a slim chance at getting an out large bid

The only way Alabama's Basketball team goes dancing this month is if they make a Harlem Shake video.

How many really bad losses did that Clemson team have Scott? Cause those 4 bad losses we got is what killed us this year.

Edit, I looked it up, that Clemson's team worst lost was South Carolina who had an rpi rank of about 140. That was their only bad loss for the year, it was a much better resume than ours this year.

Yes RPI ranking for your team is important, but so is not having multiple bad losses. of the 12 or so called bubble teams talked about the last few weeks, there were like only 2 other teams that had as many bad losses as we do and those 2 teams aren't getting in either. Our rpi did not kill us this year, it was the god awful losses that we had, which to be honest with the exception of last year have happened under Grant the other 3 years he has been our coach.

I know people kept putting stock in Lunardi's last 4 in stuff (not you, but others), but Lunardi has whored himself and his bracket out to espn for a payday, his bracket changes day to day based on what helps espn promote games they have scheduled during the week, which by the way is why he had us and Ole Miss in his last 4 in earlier this week.

uab had an rpi in the mid 30s that year, correction, that was before they expanded the bracket, but it was uab's rpi that got them in that year over us

teams with 3 top 100 losses and 1 top 200 loss, with some of those coming at home like we did, aren't going to make the field over teams with similar rpi ratings that don't have those losses hanging over their heads. It is just that simple, those losses without any top 50 wins to balance them out were always to cause us to lose the tiebreaker in the selection committee minds this year.

yeah I know we have a lot of 50-100 wins, but the key their is that fe w of those are going to be in the tourney.

I have noticed that when it comes down to the last few at larges given at each year, normally either bad losses or having more wins against other teams that are going to be in the Tourney is what normal is the difference (everyone concentrates on top 100 wins, but it is actually the number of wins against other tourney teams that get the selection committee attention)

yes there is a little difference in what each different selection committe values, but consistantly year after year the last teams in either have 1) much higher rpis than the other last few teams (that was uab that year), 2) have multiple wins against teams that are already in the tourney, or 3) only have at most 1 bad loss on their resume, hopefully not at home. It's those 3 things that 95% of the time decide the last few spots, SOS normally only comes into play if the previous 3 mention things are similar or if the OOC schedule is in the 200s like it was for one of Gotfried's teams that got left out.

It is what it is this year, if we don't lay an egg at Auburn, our 7 50-100 wins would have helped us. That 4th loss (and one over 200th to boot), just killed us. I knew then that unless a lot of teams in front of us just completely fell apart we were in serious trouble to make the tourney.

People in here killing my dreams

Yeah I know, I'm tired of my NCAA dreams dying to.

Truth is if we hadn't stunk it up to crappy teams this last Dec and hadn't stunk it up in, oh can't remeber the name of the OOC tournament, but the Late November tourney we lost all 3 games to awful teams to 2 seasons ago. Well if we don't do those 2 things, we are all sitting here today happy that we were about to be in the dance for the 3rd straight year and happily arguing about what our seeding would be.

That's what really is depressing, we have had the talent to be in the tourney for 3 straight trips, and all we got to show is one, 1 and done tourney trip. That is what really needs to sink in, this year should have been our 3rd tourney trip under grant but awful, crappy OOC losses to teams much less talented than us that we had no business lossing to have kept it from happening.

An interesting stat from the RPI. Of teams in the 40-60 range. Alabama is 60th and Southern Miss is 42nd. They are the only two teams in that range with 0 top 50 wins. Alabama however has 7 Top 100 wins compared to 3 for Southern Miss. So how is Southern Miss so much higher in RPI. The difference is the road wins. Southern Miss is 9-6 on the road this year, while Alabama is 4-8. Both teams have 2 wins in neutral site games. Southern Miss also has one road win against a top 100 team while Alabama has none. The RPI has always valued road wins more than conference home wins.

Southern Miss road wins..

Georgia State
Morehead State
Liberty
Sam Houston State
Georgia
Rice
SMU
Tulsa
UAB
East Carolina

Their road wins are large in number, but so many of them are easy wins.