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Great article on Notre Dame

  • By Rick Reilly on ESPN. Arguing for relegation of ND.

    Notre Dame Irish have relegated themselves to insignificance - ESPN

    I don't love Notre Dame football anymore. Notre Dame football has been living a lie, as Lou Holtz likes to say. Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, nothing happened. The echoes are in REM sleep. It has failed to advance the ball.

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  • No team in the country has been as over rated as ND for the last 20 years. They are a has been.

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  • I've been waiting for years for someone with an audience to say this. I loved it.

    I heard Mike Golic went apes**t on Mike and Mike this morning over it. I wish I had seen that.

    ETA: Actually, I now see there's a video of it on ESPN. I guess I'll catch it later.

    This post was edited by UAFast on 8/16/2012 at 12:04 PM

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  • airharper said...

    By Rick Reilly on ESPN. Arguing for relegation of ND.

    Because they're Catholic and they have the Pope. Don't know what the stats are these days but I would say there are more Catholics in the U.S. than any denomination.

    Notre Dame was playing Bama once and the line judge threw a flag at the start of a play. The head ref asked the line judge what the call was and he said Notre Dame was offsides. The head ref says no we weren't.biggrin

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  • Cosmo3 said...

    No team in the country has been as over rated as ND for the last 20 years. They are a has been.

    I know you were just throwing this out there, but technically, that's not true. For the last 20 years (1992 - 2011)the most overrated teams (in order), are:

    1. Texas (-99 positions)
    2. Florida State (-86)
    3. Florida (-82)
    4. Notre Dame (-81)
    5. Oklahoma (-72)

    This is essentially just a sum of there differences between their starting position and their final position (Unranked is counted as position 26).

    The most underrated teams are:
    1. Oregon (+78)
    2. Boise State (+72)
    T3. Washington State (+70)(surprised me the most, but they haven't been ranked since 2003, so no negative points)
    T3. Utah (+64)
    5. TCU (+50)

    Just thought I would put that out there in case anyone was curious.

    Sorry, had to scrub the data, found some errors. It's good to go now.

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  • lowetide said...

    I know you were just throwing this out there, but technically, that's not true. For the last 20 years (1992 - 2011)the most overrated teams (in order), are:

    1. Florida State (-86 positions) 2. Texas (-81) 3. Notre Dame (-74) 4. Florida (-73) 5. Michigan (-71)

    This is essentially just a sum of there differences between their starting position and their final position (Unranked is counted as position 26).

    The most underrated teams are: 1. Boise State (+72) 2. Washington State (+70) (surprised me the most, but they haven't been ranked since 2003, so no negative points) T3. Oregon (+64) T3. Utah (+64) 5. TCU (+50)

    Just thought I would put that out there in case anyone was curious.

    Thats awesome info... I was talking to a friend of mine about this the other day... Is there a link to a listing of the other #6-#20 or did you research this yourself??? +1 for ya!!!

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  • Top 20 Overrated:
    Rank Team Total
    1 Texas -99.00
    2 Florida State -86.00
    3 Florida -82.00
    4 Notre Dame -81.00
    5 Oklahoma -72.00
    6 Tennessee -66.00
    7 Miami-Florida -65.00
    8 Michigan -58.00
    9 Texas A&M -57.00
    10 Nebraska -56.00
    11 Washington -50.00
    12 Clemson -47.00
    13 Southern Cal -45.00
    14 California -28.00
    15 Syracuse -27.00
    16 UCLA -26.00
    17 Colorado -26.00
    18 Penn State -23.00
    19 Ohio State -17.00
    20 Louisiana State -17.00

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  • Top 20 Underrated (remember this is over 20 years):
    Rank Team Total
    1 Oregon 78.00
    2 Boise State 72.00
    3 Washington State 70.00
    4 Utah 64.00
    5 Texas Christian 50.00
    6 Boston College 45.00
    7 Brigham Young 43.00
    8 Kansas State 42.00
    9 Cincinnati 37.00
    10 Arkansas 33.00
    11 Mississippi 28.00
    12 Kansas 27.00
    13 Auburn 27.00
    14 Michigan State 25.00
    15 Oregon State 25.00
    16 South Carolina 23.00
    17 Wisconsin 23.00
    18 Maryland 22.00
    19 North Carolina State 19.00
    20 Tulane 19.00

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  • ozarkbama said...

    Thats awesome info... I was talking to a friend of mine about this the other day... Is there a link to a listing of the other #6-#20 or did you research this yourself??? +1 for ya!!!

    Got raw data from someone, just did the totals/averages. A couple of years ago, I also did analysis on who did the most with their recruits by comparing class rankings with final rankings. Pretty interesting stuff, might have that lying around somewhere... just not sure.

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  • Spot on Mr. Reilly.

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  • lowetide said...

    I know you were just throwing this out there, but technically, that's not true. For the last 20 years (1992 - 2011)the most overrated teams (in order), are:

    1. Texas (-99 positions) 2. Florida State (-86) 3. Florida (-82) 4. Notre Dame (-81) 5. Oklahoma (-72)

    This is essentially just a sum of there differences between their starting position and their final position (Unranked is counted as position 26).

    The most underrated teams are: 1. Oregon (+78) 2. Boise State (+72) T3. Washington State (+70)(surprised me the most, but they haven't been ranked since 2003, so no negative points) T3. Utah (+64) 5. TCU (+50)

    Just thought I would put that out there in case anyone was curious.

    Sorry, had to scrub the data, found some errors. It's good to go now.

    I know your stats may suggest otherwise, but it is pretty hard to call the other 4 schools on the list overrated when they've all won National Championships in that period. Heck, Florida alone has won 3, and FSU 2. No arguments with ND though, IMO they are THE most overrated.

    Makers Mike

  • well apparently on NCAA 13 they are rated 99 overalll with the best offense... so they must be going in the right direction!

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  • great article! spot on!

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