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How much of an Impact has Saban had on Spread Teams

  • ie. Auburn and Florida to change to a pro style offense?

    Bamasince1983

  • Bamasince1983 said...

    ie. Auburn and Florida to change to a pro style offense?

    If CNS and CKS didn't kill it they have certainly sent the architects of the spread back to the drawing board. The fly by night spread wannabes have vanished. Without a doubt they reshaped the way it has to be executed.

    UApopeye

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  • Well, let's see - he gave Urban Meyer "health problems" and made Malzahn's wife EVEN nuttier and ran both OUT of the SEC. Caused Colt McCoy to take a dive in the BCSCG (anyone care to argue) and he's beaten Mullen 54-17 in two years.

    AND GUS WAS LIKE ... SHUT UP!

    I'd say he's processed the spread.

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  • I'm not sure Saban processed the spread. I think when a team has great success other teams copy it. Muschamp is a Saban disciple so I can see why he is changing Florida's offense. He's a grind it out, defensive coach anyway. Auburns excuse is the same tired excuse it's been for 75 years. It's trying to keep up with Alabama but it can't.

    This post was edited by DrStach_ on 5/8/2012 at 8:00 AM

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  • Bamasince1983 said...

    ie. Auburn and Florida to change to a pro style offense?

    I think Mizzou will be in for a rude awakening.

    J Kirkpatrick

  • Still several spread teams in the SEC. MSU,Mizzou, A&M under Sumlin. & Ole Miss under Freeze. But none of the upper tier teams are currently running it.

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  • J. Kirkpatrick said...

    I think Mizzou will be in for a rude awakening.

    I can't wait to see how the newbies respond to real defense. I can see a few more offenses and coaches being processed in the near future.

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  • J. Kirkpatrick said...

    I think Mizzou will be in for a rude awakening.

    Understatement.

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  • Football in general is the ultimate Copy Cat sport. In the NFL they actually call it the Copy Cat League. Teams have and will always try and copy what wins and therefore they will try and copy what the Champion Program does.

    How nice is it that the program they all want to be like is once again - ALABAMA! rolltiderollbol14rolltideroll

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  • spread temas will stay spread teams for the most part though. hell you cant win em all unless you are, well, us or whoever the national champ is that year. a spread team that lights it up 11 games out of the year and gets shut down by bama 1 game per year is still better than a team that goes 7-5

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  • Dr.Stache said...

    I'm not sure Saban processed the spread. I think when a team has great success other teams copy it. Muschamp is a Saban disciple so I can see why he is changing Florida's offense. He's a grind it out, defensive coach anyway. Auburns excuse is the same tired excuse it's been for 75 years. It's trying to keep up with Alabama but it can't.

    auburn is just flailing around. The wild changes they've made over the last decade reek of desperation, not strategic vision. So, no, it's not that they learned that the spread sucked; they'd have kept it if Malzahn hadn't bolted.

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  • 1tide said...

    Still several spread teams in the SEC. MSU,Mizzou, A&M under Sumlin. & Ole Miss under Freeze. But none of the upper tier teams are currently running it.

    Let's be fair to the OP, though. Sticking with his premise, three of those haven't gotten a Saban bitchslap yet, while the 4th is married to the spread, because it's the head coach's entire identity. Like Malzahn, he has to take that offense with him where ever he goes.

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  • TJ-2-F-AU said...

    Let's be fair to the OP, though. Sticking with his premise, three of those haven't gotten a Saban bitchslap yet, while the 4th is married to the spread, because it's the head coach's entire identity. Like Malzahn, he has to take that offense with him where ever he goes.

    Sure they would have kept it with Malzahn. But they also could have hired some one to keep running the spread & didn't.

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  • 1tide said...

    Sure they would have kept it with Malzahn. But they also could have hired some one to keep running the spread & didn't.

    Assuming you're replying to the other post. The point is that auburn didn't scrap the spread because it didn't match their vision for the future. They scrapped it because it left them.

    Besides, they're very fond of claiming that ROFLoeffler is a spread-pro-shotgun-westcoast guru chimera.

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  • TJ-2-F-AU said...

    Assuming you're replying to the other post. The point is that auburn didn't scrap the spread because it didn't match their vision for the future. They scrapped it because it left them.

    Besides, they're very fond of claiming that ROFLoeffler is a spread-pro-shotgun-westcoast guru chimera.

    Actually, I think Chizik pushed Malzahn out bc he had no faith in that offense to sustain greatness without a Tebow or Cam-type player at the wheel.

    And no one, and I mean NO ONE, is scared of "All That Was Left"ler.

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  • I think the easiest path to winning 8 games a year and playing in Atlanta is to go with a spread because you aren't going head to head with Bama for talent and can find unique kids that fit your system.

    What Nick Saban has done is to show that a pro-set offense with a nasty online combined with a multiple look on defense stocked with 4* & 5* across the board will beat the hell out of soft spread looks and nickel defenses. At the end of the day our guys are big, fast and disciplined, which beats small and fast every time.

    Auburn now is going to have to recruit the same kids we are and hope that they can develop them at the same level as Saban does, which seems to me to be a good way to get your ass fired.

    Tide06

  • 92DT said...

    Actually, I think Chizik pushed Malzahn out bc he had no faith in that offense to sustain greatness without a Tebow or Cam-type player at the wheel.

    And no one, and I mean NO ONE, is scared of "All That Was Left"ler.

    Exactly my take on it. Chiz still claims he didn't want Cam.

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  • I think the SEC style spread option variety is pretty much dead. Most coaches probably prefer systems that don't require once in a blue moon talents like Tebow or Newton to run them, its just not convincing when you have to change jobs when those players leave.

    The Big 12 style spread will probably persist a lot longer, in that conference it's not broke so they likely won't try to fix it.

    bhiley77

  • 1tide said...

    Still several spread teams in the SEC. MSU,Mizzou, A&M under Sumlin. & Ole Miss under Freeze. But none of the upper tier teams are currently running it.

    These spread "systems" are for teams that can't consistently pull in the talent to line up with pro-style.

    Nomad36

  • It will be interesting to see if Meyer brings his normal spread offense to the Big 10 or if he has to modify it quite a bit due to the players he has.

    If he has the players to run it he could blast that league for a few years

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  • bhiley77 said...

    I think the SEC style spread option variety is pretty much dead. Most coaches probably prefer systems that don't require once in a blue moon talents like Tebow or Newton to run them, its just not convincing when you have to change jobs when those players leave.

    The Big 12 style spread will probably persist a lot longer, in that conference it's not broke so they likely won't try to fix it.

    Yeah that's the spread we will continue to see throughout the country. The one where they have a QB who slings it rather than focuses on the run. If that QB has wheels, well that's just another advantage but its not ever the first option. The common factor in all the Big 12 spread teams is they feature a throwing offense built around a QB who can sling it to multiple WR sets.

    We even see this variation in the NFL now, especially with teams like NE, GB, NO, teams who have a QB who can do this. That spread, will stick for a while longer but again even this one is contingent on a good throwing QB to pull it off more than any other position.

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  • Landshark22 said...

    It will be interesting to see if Meyer brings his normal spread offense to the Big 10 or if he has to modify it quite a bit due to the players he has.

    If he has the players to run it he could blast that league for a few years

    I think we will see more of his Utah offense at OSU rather than what he became with Tebow. The principles will remain, but they went to much more QB run options because of who they had running the show. With Alex Smith, it was much more throwing similar to what we see like mentioned above with the Big 12 spread offenses than what Florida became under Tebow. Yes, Smith still ran, and I think Urban has a guy at OSU who can do those same things. The young kid, his name just isn't coming to me. I think he wears #5? My question would be is can he throw like what Smith did at Utah because that is what I see OSU's offense becoming, but still using those run option plays mixed in just not the focus of the offense.

    This post was edited by BB2One on 5/8/2012 at 10:24 AM

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