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TeddyBama24 said...
I know a lot of people in our fan base don't really understand basketball (down vote me all you want, but having football intelligence does not equate to basket intelligence at all), so not many will want to hear this and will call it sunshine pumping; I have been really encouraged with this season.
Before the season, I saw a roster that wasn't better than last year's roster; quite frankly it is worse. Have our young perimeter guys improved? Absolutely. Does it matter much? No, not really. JaMychael Green might have had some character issues, but the guy brought something to our team that is absolutely critical over the long haul of a season: a big guy that is capable of playing good defense and offense. Add losing Tony Mitchell, and we lost a lot only adding a freshman who is without a doubt talented, but obviously needs time in the weight room and time to adjust to the college game.
Before the season, I saw a roster that would only make the NCAA tournament if we completely avoided injuries; if one of our big guys went down (especially one of the 7 footers), forget making the NCAA tournament unless Grant coached the season of his life. Right now, we got one big guy who, though he has defensive and offensive physical abilities, doesn't truly have the basketball IQ to be depended on throughout a game, and we have one big guy who, quite frankly, can only shoot a left hook shot. I don't care how talented your guards are. If that is all you have to consistently rebound, play low post defense, pass from the low post, and score from the low post, you aren't going to have a consistent basketball team. Our guard play has been truly outstanding to keep us on the bubble.
Next year we have our talented guards with one more year experience, Anthony Grant with one more year experience (I believe he still isn't comfortable in this program compared to other coaches around the league, nor can anybody expect him to be this early), and some improved front court depth is a very dangerous team barring no bad luck with injuries.
We will have all of that next year. If Grant can't at least get into the tournament with next year's situation, then I will lean towards the crowd that says our program isn't going in the right direction. Nonetheless, I believe Anthony Grant is absolutely the best Head Coach our program could hope for. Is he perfect right now? No, but he is better than Gottfried EVER was. Yes, I'm aware that Gottfried got us to the Elite 8, but Gottfried won the wrong way IMO. Gottfried was willing to get down and dirty. We not only have a good man leading our program; we have a man that knows how to lead a basketball program to long-term success.
Be patient with Grant. Also, realize that if you think our basketball team's performance this year warrants Anthony Grant being fired, you probably think you know a lot more about basketball than you actually do.
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NashTide said...
I love when folks start threads with the whole "I know more about this than you do" BS.
I saw this team up close tonight. They don't communicate. They don't play hard for 40 minutes. The bench looks like a morgue. We're out of control and play with no purpose offensively. We somehow have two bigs that can't get off the floor.
I'm not being a doom and gloomer. It is what it is. This staff has one more year to make the tournament and win a game there. This team's basketball IQ is almost nonexistent. Calls that would've gotten most coaches ejected barely drew a yawn from our 2 million dollar man.
I'm sick of this sh*t.
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NashTide said...
I love when folks start threads with the whole "I know more about this than you do" BS.
I saw this team up close tonight. They don't communicate. They don't play hard for 40 minutes. The bench looks like a morgue. We're out of control and play with no purpose offensively. We somehow have two bigs that can't get off the floor.
I'm not being a doom and gloomer. It is what it is. This staff has one more year to make the tournament and win a game there. This team's basketball IQ is almost nonexistent. Calls that would've gotten most coaches ejected barely drew a yawn from our 2 million dollar man.
I'm sick of this sh*t.
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TeddyBama24 said...
I know a lot of people in our fan base don't really understand basketball (down vote me all you want, but having football intelligence does not equate to basket intelligence at all), so not many will want to hear this and will call it sunshine pumping; I have been really encouraged with this season.
Before the season, I saw a roster that wasn't better than last year's roster; quite frankly it is worse. Have our young perimeter guys improved? Absolutely. Does it matter much? No, not really. JaMychael Green might have had some character issues, but the guy brought something to our team that is absolutely critical over the long haul of a season: a big guy that is capable of playing good defense and offense. Add losing Tony Mitchell, and we lost a lot only adding a freshman who is without a doubt talented, but obviously needs time in the weight room and time to adjust to the college game.
Before the season, I saw a roster that would only make the NCAA tournament if we completely avoided injuries; if one of our big guys went down (especially one of the 7 footers), forget making the NCAA tournament unless Grant coached the season of his life. Right now, we got one big guy who, though he has defensive and offensive physical abilities, doesn't truly have the basketball IQ to be depended on throughout a game, and we have one big guy who, quite frankly, can only shoot a left hook shot. I don't care how talented your guards are. If that is all you have to consistently rebound, play low post defense, pass from the low post, and score from the low post, you aren't going to have a consistent basketball team. Our guard play has been truly outstanding to keep us on the bubble.
Next year we have our talented guards with one more year experience, Anthony Grant with one more year experience (I believe he still isn't comfortable in this program compared to other coaches around the league, nor can anybody expect him to be this early), and some improved front court depth is a very dangerous team barring no bad luck with injuries.
We will have all of that next year. If Grant can't at least get into the tournament with next year's situation, then I will lean towards the crowd that says our program isn't going in the right direction. Nonetheless, I believe Anthony Grant is absolutely the best Head Coach our program could hope for. Is he perfect right now? No, but he is better than Gottfried EVER was. Yes, I'm aware that Gottfried got us to the Elite 8, but Gottfried won the wrong way IMO. Gottfried was willing to get down and dirty. We not only have a good man leading our program; we have a man that knows how to lead a basketball program to long-term success.
Be patient with Grant. Also, realize that if you think our basketball team's performance this year warrants Anthony Grant being fired, you probably think you know a lot more about basketball than you actually do.
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TeddyBama24 said...
Our roster problems are a lot more indicative of how difficult it is to recruit at our program, and how few quality big men our state has produced recently. I don't care how much money you put into a sport that doesn't actually require much money to be successful; if you can't get fans in the seats during November and December (naturally I'm not focused on basketball at that time of the year either), then you aren't going to tell recruits with a straight face that our fans care about basketball more than the next program. Recruits want to go somewhere where they are the big guy on campus (especially basketball players who are the most egotistical of any athlete). When a four star basketball player who gets significant playing time as a freshman and sophomore gets less attention from fans than a five star football player who is currently getting redshirted, the fans can't say they really care about basketball more than any other football school. And don't give me the tired old story that wins will put fans in the seats; our football program put fans in the seats when we were in probation. Kentucky packs out their house, and they are beyond mediocre this year.
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Oh yeah. You obviously don't realize how long it takes to get comfortable as 1.an outsider and 2.an African American basketball coach at this school and this state. I wouldn't be 100% comfortable in his situation either. He is probably going to have three 20 win seasons (something we haven't done in over 20 years), and his program's fan base is calling for his head. And you say he should be comfortable right now? Unbelievable. If you expect him to change this culture to build a base for long-term success in 4 years, then you are extremely delusional and need to lower your expectations in relation to our basketball program just a bit.
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Oh yeah. You obviously don't realize how long it takes to get comfortable as 1.an outsider and 2.an African American basketball coach at this school and this state. I wouldn't be 100% comfortable in his situation either. He is probably going to have three 20 win seasons (something we haven't done in over 20 years), and his program's fan base is calling for his head. And you say he should be comfortable right now? Unbelievable. If you expect him to change this culture to build a base for long-term success in 4 years, then you are extremely delusional and need to lower your short-term expectations in relation to our basketball program just a bit.
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TeddyBama24 said...
Oh yeah. You obviously don't realize how long it takes to get comfortable as 1.an outsider and 2.an African American basketball coach at this school and this state. I wouldn't be 100% comfortable in his situation either. He is probably going to have three 20 win seasons (something we haven't done in over 20 years), and his program's fan base is calling for his head. And you say he should be comfortable right now? Unbelievable. If you expect him to change this culture to build a base for long-term success in 4 years, then you are extremely delusional and need to lower your short-term expectations in relation to our basketball program just a bit.
This post was edited by Bama_Lefty on 3/6/2013 at 12:24 AM
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Get outta here with your African American bull crap. There are coaches all over the country who are African Americans. Its freaking 2013 man come on.Yes by year 4 a sec coach should be pretty dang comfortable. Like I said he's an outstanding defensive coach but he's gotta hire somebody for the offense or he won't be here long.
This post was edited by TeddyBama24 on 3/6/2013 at 12:19 AM
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I have always been the first to say that using the race card as an excuse is ridiculous. I'm actually not using it as an excuse because I believe Grant has done a great job in his first four years knowing that we have only been able to successfully recruit guards because of geographic limitations the past few years. I'm just giving you a reason why he isn't as comfortable as you believe he should be. I don't like it that African Americans still have a fear that racism still is prevalent (I agree that it is pretty much non-existent), but I also realize that African Americans do have that fear, especially African Americans that were not raised in the deep south (Grant was raised in south Florida).
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I think that's all bunk but for the sake of debate... If he truly feels uncomfortable, that falls as much on him, if not more, than it does the fanbase. It's a two way street. I distinctly remember the ovations he got in his first seasons even during the home games of the nit. This fanbase was itching to buy in to him and wrp him up with support. But to this day, and what i think is one of his biggest failures, he has opted onto not to foster that pr and fan excitement. Not only has his on court product become unenthused, so has his persona. We hardly know the guy and cannot welcome him, because he won't open up to and energize the fanbase.
Dude needs to come out of his shell/ comfort zone. There's still a majority of fans who want him to suceed. Put an exciting winning brand of basketball on the court and its not too late. But next year is do or move on for him.
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