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Jamychal Green

  • I wasn't gonna start a thread on this, but I just participated in a conversation with a co-worker who roasted Green to his own father. Green's father was a railroader, and we processed his retirement. From Mr. Green, "Grant just doesn't want Jamychal to be a lottery pick." My coworker, "He wasn't going to be a lottery pick anyway, he is a senior, and seniors are never lottery picks." He went on to talk about how Green played dirty in high school, but the refs never would make the calls. He went to Alabama feeling entitled. Evidently Gottfried knew that he had a problem child on his hands, and Grant isn't gonna put up with what Gottfried would have. They discussed Green having both on campus and city police called to his residence for disturbance, and how his attitude will affect his draft status. They talked about Green trying to carry his Montgomery buddies with him to the NBA just like Allen Iverson did.

    I knew better than to get involved in a conversation between 2 old buddies, but I found it interesting that Mr. Green didn't dispute the frank assessment of his son by my co-worker.

    ianmccants

  • ianmccants said...

    From Mr. Green, "Grant just doesn't want Jamychal to be a lottery pick."

    Well now I know where JG gets his poor attitude from. It is a shame for a parent to not think Grant is trying to make his son a better man. Also thanks for posting.

    This post was edited by Cunni035 on 2/24/2012 at 11:34 AM

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  • jebtide02 said...

    I don't get why everyone thinks he is a "selfish" player. Maybe you guys can remind me of examples in the past where he's put himself before the team, but I can't really think of any....

    I'll add to this that I have no idea what he did to be suspended this time or in previous suspensions.

    He has been suspended, multiple times and some for multiple games. He's not a freshman, fresh out of high school who "didn't know any better". 99% of us don't know what he did, but the fact is what ever he did caused him to be suspended. And I think we can all agree it wasn't something that CAG had to make up to get him suspended. It was either an obvious team rule violation or NCAA/legal violation. He chose to do it, which got himself suspended, again. How is that not selfish?

    I never liked his attitude on the floor, which most on here seem to agree with and many mistakenly call that selfish. But I don't think he's selfish for any of his on the court stuff. It is 100% due to how he acts off the court. He's our best player, he is our 1 senior, and should have been a leader for the last 2 years - both on and off the court. Whatever he's doing to get suspended isn't helping the younger players, and is selfish.

    I'd like for you to explain how getting suspended as much and often as he has as anything but being selfish.

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  • I'll throw this in for the JM being selfish side of things...

    Watch his mannerisms during games. I'm not talking about with the other team, refs, etc. I'm talking about how he handles himself with his teammates and coaches. Very often over the last four years he has noticeably pouted--both on the court and on the bench, argued with teammates, shrugged off coaches, gotten blatant fouls with lazy defense, and taken shots clearly outside of the rhythym of the offense for no other reason than to shoot the ball.

    I played basketball for a looooong time and I get that players aren't supposed to stand at attention the whole time a coach is getting on to them. Sometimes it is good for a player to let it roll off their back. It's also good sometimes for a good player to take control and shoot. You expect more of this stuff from Freshmen and even Sophomores. JM hasn't grown much. In his game or with his attitude. The constant suspensions are a glaring reminder.

    I have a love/hate relationship with the guy. He wears Crimson, he's talented, and he is a kid...so I'm pulling for him. But all of the reasons I've shared above are really frustrating. I compare him a lot to DJ Hall. All the talent in the world, but will the program be in worse or better shape when his attitude and seeming lack of leadership are gone??

    I'm not trying to bash the kid...just telling you how I've seen it over the last four years now.

    bamajt

  • jebtide02 said...

    I don't get why everyone thinks he is a "selfish" player. Maybe you guys can remind me of examples in the past where he's put himself before the team, but I can't really think of any. I do think he has composure issues and that shows on the court in his game and the way he responds to opposing players at times. That said, I think the guy truly cares about his teammates and, at least recently, I see no signs of him loafing or whining because he isn't getting the ball or whatever. He seems to play hard(but sometimes stupid) when he's on the court.

    I'll add to this that I have no idea what he did to be suspended this time or in previous suspensions.

    You kind of hit on it with your last sentence.

    Getting suspended 3 times in 3 years shows that he does not understand leadership or accountability.

    He's also a hothead that has the composure of a 16 year-old when he's challenged physically or when an opponent gets into his head.

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  • acal85 said...

    He has been suspended, multiple times and some for multiple games. He's not a freshman, fresh out of high school who "didn't know any better". 99% of us don't know what he did, but the fact is what ever he did caused him to be suspended. And I think we can all agree it wasn't something that CAG had to make up to get him suspended. It was either an obvious team rule violation or NCAA/legal violation. He chose to do it, which got himself suspended, again. How is that not selfish?

    I never liked his attitude on the floor, which most on here seem to agree with and many mistakenly call that selfish. But I don't think he's selfish for any of his on the court stuff. It is 100% due to how he acts off the court. He's our best player, he is our 1 senior, and should have been a leader for the last 2 years - both on and off the court. Whatever he's doing to get suspended isn't helping the younger players, and is selfish.

    I'd like for you to explain how getting suspended as much and often as he has as anything but being selfish.

    i can't really explain it because i don't know exaclty what he's done. I know that he's made some dumb decision but I don't think he's a selfish person. I don't think he think that he thinks he's above the team and while I agree that his suspensions are frustrating, I don't think they're out of selfishness. The guy has anger issues and is immature, but I don't think he's selfish. He's never been forced to grow up. He can give the licks but he can't take them back, I understand that. But I don't think he's selfish and I from what I've seen his teammates really like him and he really likes his teammates. When I watch the ball games, I see him hustling. I don't think he's a cancer to his team, I think he's more of a cancer to himself. I hope he realizes it soon and gets it corrected, but if he hasn't yet...then when?

    So by going off of your explanation, Releford and Steele are also "selfish" players? I don't think they are, I think they made a dumb decision and so did Myke. I think Myke's been suspended longer because of his previous suspensions and rightfully so.

    jebtide02

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  • punkdoc said...

    You kind of hit on it with your last sentence.

    Getting suspended 3 times in 3 years shows that he does not understand leadership or accountability.

    He's also a hothead that has the composure of a 16 year-old when he's challenged physically or when an opponent gets into his head.

    Exaclty my point, but I don't think he's doing it out of selfishness. He's doing it because that's what he's been taught growing up...that's how he's always dealt with it and for most of his life it's worked.

    When I used to play baseball and i struck out, I'd walk back to the dugout crying and throw the helmet and bat...pitch a little fit out of frustration AT MYSELF...not my teammates. Now after I did it a couple of times my Dad was waiting at the dugout to "convince" me that my actions were wrong and it helped me to mature and grow up and become (imo) a bit of a leader on my basketball teams in the future and be more accountable and take some responsibility for my own actions. Helped me to stay ultra-competitive but learn to keep my emotions in check.

    jebtide02