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LSU is dead last in SEC (#117 nationally) in red zone defense

  • Bama is first.

    LSU defense:
    Scores: 15
    Chances: 16
    9 TD/6 FG

    So basically give the ball to Trent in the red zone and it's a done deal. rolltideroll

    SweetHomeNYC ●

  • I like this idea, but where did you hear/read this from? Interesting stat if true. I like our chances a LOT more if that's the case!

    phlux

  • Straight from the horse's mouth!

    lsu last in sec in this defense statistic @ TigerDroppings.com

    lsu ranks last in red zone defense 8 games scores / chances 15 16 9-td 6 fg alabama ranks first in red zone defense red zone offen

    www.tigerdroppings.com

    SweetHomeNYC ●

  • stats are legit. fascinating. +1

    AlreadyNProcess

  • Sorry about the down vote. Didn't mean to do it. Went to scroll ony phone and hit hit. I'm sure some of our crimson brothers will offset it with major up votes!

    I feel goo about this game and this stat makes me feel even better!

    Sorry again and RTR!

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    Enjoying the process. RTR!

    Capstone92

  • This illustrates the error of applying percentages to a small sampling of events. The fact remains that they've played 7 games and only gave up 2 scores per game in the red zone. Not too shabby. Edit: It also suggests that not many points were scored from out of the red zone, i.e. they don't give up many big plays for scores.

    This post was edited by frankjmusso on 10/26/2011 at 8:46 AM

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  • frankjmusso said...

    This illustrates the error of applying percentages to a small sampling of events. The fact remains that they've played 7 games and only gave up 2 scores per game in the red zone. Not too shabby.

    While I recognize this (and also the possibility that some of this was in garbage time), I still like the fact that 99% of the time, LSU's opponents put points on the board in the red zone.

    SweetHomeNYC ●

  • Unfortunately the Red Zone is where McEwlain tries to get the cutest. He WAY over-think what to do and we generally leave points on the field. If I am inside the 5 and I have Trent, I am shoving the ball down their throats.

    Bearyant

  • LSU is also #2 Nationally in Red Zone Offense so it will be the best we have faced this year.
    Bama is #46 in Red Zone Offense so to take advantage of LSU being #117 we need to be more efficient which as stated above it seems we get a little cute inside the 20.

    lhull25

  • Unfortunately they only allow about 56% TDs in the red zone, and we only convert 58% of red zone chances into TDs. They on the other hand convert almost 80% into TDs. The really interesting red zone stat for me is that we've only allowed 9 red zone trips in 8 games, and only 5 TDs. 1 of those 9 was after an INT late in the game against Kent State, and another was late against PSU against the backups.

    tpmjr

  • After doing some research of my own, I came across this nugget: 99.3% chance that Bama gonna whup that cajun ass come november 5th. Statistically speaking, of course.

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  • over rated statistic. its all about how many tds you allow in the red zone and they look pretty good there.

    Shane8773

  • tpmjr said...

    Unfortunately they only allow about 56% TDs in the red zone, and we only convert 58% of red zone chances into TDs. They on the other hand convert almost 80% into TDs. The really interesting red zone stat for me is that we've only allowed 9 red zone trips in 8 games, and only 5 TDs. 1 of those 9 was after an INT late in the game against Kent State, and another was late against PSU against the backups.

    That wasn't against the backups. Penn St's drive was vs the starting defense. It is what it is. I keep seeing this. Short memories.

    JCB206

  • We need to get there first. Cut this from same site.

    re: lsu last in sec in this defense statistic   (Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:02 a.m. to ttigermike)
    We are actually near the bottom of the FBS in score percentage (#117). But we are #9 in fewest attempts and #22 in total scores against our defense from the redzone.

    Basically we usually allow the other team to score once in the redzone, but we are fairly good at keeping them out.

    This post was edited by vaughanlaw on 10/26/2011 at 11:07 AM

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  • Good thing statistics don't win games cause they have an edge on us with the TD to fg percentage they get when in the red zone. I just hope our guys are not as overly confident as some of our fans are. They need to get ready for the game of their lives. Talk smack after you win, not. before.

    imabamadad

  • Wow. never would have guessed. They do make it pretty hard to get to the red zone

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  • imabamadad said...

    Good thing statistics don't win games cause they have an edge on us with the TD to fg percentage they get when in the red zone. I just hope our guys are not as overly confident as some of our fans are. They need to get ready for the game of their lives. Talk smack after you win, not. before.

    Yeah I'm finding it extremely difficult to make many arguments based on statistics. It all, to me, points to a behemoth of a battle at Bryant-Denny. I don't see one team dominating the other, though I do feel like if the game turns one-sided, it'll be in our favor.

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    rolltide1219

  • Another stat that probably won't impact the game. We weren't so hot in Red Zone scoring against UT.

    Bama Illinois

  • Amen to that brother!!

    I will never understand why you run the ball down the opposing teams throat.....

    Get to the Redzone and immediately start passing????

    DaphneTider8

  • imabamadad said...

    Good thing statistics don't win games cause they have an edge on us with the TD to fg percentage they get when in the red zone. I just hope our guys are not as overly confident as some of our fans are. They need to get ready for the game of their lives. Talk smack after you win, not. before.

    Actually it would be a good thing if statistics won games because we have better stat than them by a descent margin in Run O/D, Pass D/O, Total D/O, and PPG O/D.

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  • SweetHomeNYC said...

    While I recognize this (and also the possibility that some of this was in garbage time), I still like the fact that 99% of the time, LSU's opponents put points on the board in the red zone.

    Yeah, but they are also holding them to FGs a good chunk of those scores. We need TDs.

    Stats aren't going to decide this... but if you want to look at them, at least try to look at them accurately...

    Unfortunately, when you take TDs vs FGs into account, and pair the defensive RZ stats with offensive, LSU comes out ahead.

    In 10 trips to the RZ, opponents score 50.6 points against LSU. (56% TD, 38% FG)
    In 10 trips to the RZ, opponents score 42.2 points against BAMA. (56% TD, 11% FG)

    In 10 trips to the RZ, LSU scores 61.0 points against opponents. (79% TD, 18% FG)
    In 10 tirps to the RZ, BAMA scores 49.0 points against opponents. (59% TD, 37% FG)

    ...So put it this way, if we traded 5 RZ tries with our opponents, we'd lead by 4 (25 - 21)... But LSU would lead by 6 (31 - 25).

    Now if you want a stat that makes you feel better, look at the total number of trips to the RZ... opponents don't get there very often against us (9 times vs 16 for LSU)... and opponents don't score as many TDs period (6 TDs vs 10 for LSU)... and it isn't like our RZ stats are beefed up because opponents are scoring from outside the RZ (1 TD, 1 FG from outside the RZ against both teams)...

    But the RZ stat itself is a little misleading once you dig in.

    PLB1982

  • Prof Moody said...

    Actually it would be a good thing if statistics won games because we have better stat than them by a descent margin in Run O/D, Pass D/O, Total D/O, and PPG O/D.

    Yep. Pretty much any way you slice it, Bama is better statistically by a good margin... but stats don't win ballgames. And, Hell, the better team doesn't always win ballgames. Sometimes it comes down to chance, sometimes it comes down to a few key matchups that offset one team's overall advantage.

    PLB1982

  • If we got 6 points for making it to the 10 yard line we would have scored 100 in every game (vbg)

    1trubamafan

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