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Luginbill sums it up.....

  • And I don't think he even realizes he did.

    Upon the approval of the new playoff format and selection committee, conversation on ESPN immediately shifted to how much of a chance the "little guy" will have. Luginbill's analysis was: "it all depends on who sits on the committee. The more influence current/former actual football players/coaches have, the less chance teams from non-BCS conferences will have".

    And that my friends is exactly right. What he basically said is "people who actually understand this game know those teams have no place in the discussion of who the best team in America is"........he just disguised it with political correctness.

    People claim the current format is "flawed", but here's something infinitely more flawed.......the commissioners of Conference USA, the Mnt West, or the WAC even having a voice PERIOD when it comes to deciding a national champion.

    Jawa3hc

  • I. Concur.

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  • Jawa3hc said...

    And I don't think he even realizes he did.

    Upon the approval of the new playoff format and selection committee, conversation on ESPN immediately shifted to how much of a chance the "little guy" will have. Luginbill's analysis was: "it all depends on who sits on the committee. The more influence current/former actual football players/coaches have, the less chance teams from non-BCS conferences will have".

    And that my friends is exactly right. What he basically said is "people who actually understand this game know those teams have no place in the discussion of who the best team in America is"........he just disguised it with political correctness.

    People claim the current format is "flawed", but here's something infinitely more flawed.......the commissioners of Conference USA, the Mnt West, or the WAC even having a voice PERIOD when it comes to deciding a national champion.

    agreed

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  • Jawa3hc said...

    And I don't think he even realizes he did.

    Upon the approval of the new playoff format and selection committee, conversation on ESPN immediately shifted to how much of a chance the "little guy" will have. Luginbill's analysis was: "it all depends on who sits on the committee. The more influence current/former actual football players/coaches have, the less chance teams from non-BCS conferences will have".

    And that my friends is exactly right. What he basically said is "people who actually understand this game know those teams have no place in the discussion of who the best team in America is"........he just disguised it with political correctness.

    People claim the current format is "flawed", but here's something infinitely more flawed.......the commissioners of Conference USA, the Mnt West, or the WAC even having a voice PERIOD when it comes to deciding a national champion.

    Bravo! Spot on!!!

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  • Jawa3hc said...

    And I don't think he even realizes he did.

    Upon the approval of the new playoff format and selection committee, conversation on ESPN immediately shifted to how much of a chance the "little guy" will have. Luginbill's analysis was: "it all depends on who sits on the committee. The more influence current/former actual football players/coaches have, the less chance teams from non-BCS conferences will have".

    And that my friends is exactly right. What he basically said is "people who actually understand this game know those teams have no place in the discussion of who the best team in America is"........he just disguised it with political correctness.

    People claim the current format is "flawed", but here's something infinitely more flawed.......the commissioners of Conference USA, the Mnt West, or the WAC even having a voice PERIOD when it comes to deciding a national champion.

    Completely agree

    Nomad36

  • Good post. I agree.

    Ulysses McGill

  • I'll be the dissident poster as Boise St is a legit squad including going 9-1 in their last 10 games against top 25 out of conference opponents. These wins have included the Big 12 Champ, PAC-10 Champ, and the ACC Champ. Most of these games were to start the season or bowl games so the opponent had equal preparation time.

    The NFL seems to be impressed with their recent talent as they had 6 players drafted in 2012, including 2 guys taken in the 1st Round (2nd OLB drafted and 2nd RB selected). None of those 6 draftees was their team MVP, QB- Kellen Moore.

    They beat Virginia Tech in their backyard to start the 2010 season and they curb-stomped UGA at the Georgia Dome to start 2011. "Explain" their success as you will but "9-1" and 6 NFL draft picks isn't happen-chance.

    I expect them to beat Michigan St to begin the 2012 season in East Lansing.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by BamaBornDukie on 6/26/2012 at 10:33 PM

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  • BamaBornDukie said...

    I'll be the dissident poster as Boise St is a legit squad including going 9-1 in their last 10 games against top 25 out of conference opponents. These wins have included the Big 12 Champ, PAC-10 Champ, and the ACC Champ. Most of these games were to start the season or bowl games so the opponent had equal preparation time.

    The NFL seems to be impressed with their recent talent as they had 6 players drafted in 2012, including 2 guys taken in the 1st Round (2nd OLB drafted and 2nd RB selected). None of those 6 draftees was their team MVP, QB- Kellen Moore.

    They beat Virginia Tech in their backyard to start the 2010 season and they curb-stomped UGA at the Georgia Dome to start 2011. "Explain" their success as you will but "9-1" and 6 NFL draft picks isn't happen-chance.

    I expect them to beat Michigan St to begin the 2012 season in East Lansing.

    I agree with you that they are a respectable team, but their wins in past seasons mean squat. Every year is judged on it's own merits, and they simply don't do enough in a single season to warrant being in the conversation. Until they are willing to take their training pants off and play in a big boy conference, they will do exactly as they should come playoff time, watch from their couch.

    Mxylplyx

  • BamaBornDukie said...

    I'll be the dissident poster as Boise St is a legit squad including going 9-1 in their last 10 games against top 25 out of conference opponents. These wins have included the Big 12 Champ, PAC-10 Champ, and the ACC Champ. Most of these games were to start the season or bowl games so the opponent had equal preparation time.

    The NFL seems to be impressed with their recent talent as they had 6 players drafted in 2012, including 2 guys taken in the 1st Round (2nd OLB drafted and 2nd RB selected). None of those 6 draftees was their team MVP, QB- Kellen Moore.

    They beat Virginia Tech in their backyard to start the 2010 season and they curb-stomped UGA at the Georgia Dome to start 2011. "Explain" their success as you will but "9-1" and 6 NFL draft picks isn't happen-chance.

    I expect them to beat Michigan St to begin the 2012 season in East Lansing.

    The argument I would make against that is they only do it 2 times a year. They don't get beat up 4 weeks in a row against top competition. They are a good team, and they can beat anyone on a given Saturday. However they would lose 2 to 3 more games a year in a big time conference.

    hawkinsjr

  • I'm sorry but playing 12 top 25 teams in six seasons does not give you the right to play for a national championship. Alabama played half that many this year alone. Going undefeated while playing one MAYBE two quality teams a year does not make you a championship caliber team. If that were the case than Alabama should leave the SEC and go to Conference USA and play one decent team and become National Champs every year. But for some reason I doubt all the people wanting Boise State to get a chance would be okay with Alabama doing that.

    jayalanbama7

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  • hawkinsjr said...

    The argument I would make against that is they only do it 2 times a year. They don't get beat up 4 weeks in a row against top competition. They are a good team, and they can beat anyone on a given Saturday. However they would lose 2 to 3 more games a year in a big time conference.

    I completely agree with this. I think Boise is a really good team that is very well coached. Having to bring your A game week in and week out in conference play makes it a little different. I just dont see how anyone could reward them for having an easy schedule. While other teams in big conferences are beating each other up every week.

    jayalanbama7

  • BamaBornDukie said...

    I'll be the dissident poster as Boise St is a legit squad including going 9-1 in their last 10 games against top 25 out of conference opponents. These wins have included the Big 12 Champ, PAC-10 Champ, and the ACC Champ. Most of these games were to start the season or bowl games so the opponent had equal preparation time.

    The NFL seems to be impressed with their recent talent as they had 6 players drafted in 2012, including 2 guys taken in the 1st Round (2nd OLB drafted and 2nd RB selected). None of those 6 draftees was their team MVP, QB- Kellen Moore.

    They beat Virginia Tech in their backyard to start the 2010 season and they curb-stomped UGA at the Georgia Dome to start 2011. "Explain" their success as you will but "9-1" and 6 NFL draft picks isn't happen-chance.

    I expect them to beat Michigan St to begin the 2012 season in East Lansing.

    Boise will not beat State in East Lansing.

    docjbb

  • I think the killer for the Boise St's is if strength of schedule is included..Just look at Utah this past year they moved to pac-12 and didn't have the season they are used to because they have to prepare every week and just for 1 game....What scares me is the committee,You can't tell me former coaches will not hold a grudge...You think Phil Fulmer will give Bama the nod over a Okie St or anyone else for that matter...If a certain school didn't hire a certain coach 25 years ago some of those coaches will hold a grudge its just human nature and that's the problem....Human Nature.....RTR

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  • BamaBornDukie said...

    I'll be the dissident poster as Boise St is a legit squad including going 9-1 in their last 10 games against top 25 out of conference opponents. These wins have included the Big 12 Champ, PAC-10 Champ, and the ACC Champ. Most of these games were to start the season or bowl games so the opponent had equal preparation time.

    The NFL seems to be impressed with their recent talent as they had 6 players drafted in 2012, including 2 guys taken in the 1st Round (2nd OLB drafted and 2nd RB selected). None of those 6 draftees was their team MVP, QB- Kellen Moore.

    They beat Virginia Tech in their backyard to start the 2010 season and they curb-stomped UGA at the Georgia Dome to start 2011. "Explain" their success as you will but "9-1" and 6 NFL draft picks isn't happen-chance.

    I expect them to beat Michigan St to begin the 2012 season in East Lansing.

    I'm going to agree with what you said specifically as it is related to Boise St. and maybe TCU. The problem is, these two teams are the exception, not the rule.

    BigAL1056

  • Alabama had four first rounders on that 2010 team who could have beat any team in the country as people say with Boise. The problem is that team had to actually go out and play every saturday. Its not a case of being good enough to play for the National Championship, because thats only a small portion of the battle, its a case of having to earn it during the season.

    jayalanbama7

  • BamaBornDukie said...

    I'll be the dissident poster as Boise St is a legit squad including going 9-1 in their last 10 games against top 25 out of conference opponents. These wins have included the Big 12 Champ, PAC-10 Champ, and the ACC Champ. Most of these games were to start the season or bowl games so the opponent had equal preparation time.

    The NFL seems to be impressed with their recent talent as they had 6 players drafted in 2012, including 2 guys taken in the 1st Round (2nd OLB drafted and 2nd RB selected). None of those 6 draftees was their team MVP, QB- Kellen Moore.

    They beat Virginia Tech in their backyard to start the 2010 season and they curb-stomped UGA at the Georgia Dome to start 2011. "Explain" their success as you will but "9-1" and 6 NFL draft picks isn't happen-chance.

    I expect them to beat Michigan St to begin the 2012 season in East Lansing.

    This is a great reason (and I hope the playoffs will be further motivation) for them to join a real conference, instead of consistently hiding in the poor ones.

    This post was edited by gatider12 on 6/27/2012 at 12:10 AM

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  • Jawa3hc said...

    And I don't think he even realizes he did.

    Upon the approval of the new playoff format and selection committee, conversation on ESPN immediately shifted to how much of a chance the "little guy" will have. Luginbill's analysis was: "it all depends on who sits on the committee. The more influence current/former actual football players/coaches have, the less chance teams from non-BCS conferences will have".

    And that my friends is exactly right. What he basically said is "people who actually understand this game know those teams have no place in the discussion of who the best team in America is"........he just disguised it with political correctness.

    People claim the current format is "flawed", but here's something infinitely more flawed.......the commissioners of Conference USA, the Mnt West, or the WAC even having a voice PERIOD when it comes to deciding a national champion.

    It's 100% accurate in my book.

    jcjbam1

  • great pick up

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    Tell people what they want to hear, they will like you. Tell them the actual truth...they may not.

    BamaBornDukie

  • Dixie Mafia said...

    I think the killer for the Boise St's is if strength of schedule is included..Just look at Utah this past year they moved to pac-12 and didn't have the season they are used to because they have to prepare every week and just for 1 game....What scares me is the committee,You can't tell me former coaches will not hold a grudge...You think Phil Fulmer will give Bama the nod over a Okie St or anyone else for that matter...If a certain school didn't hire a certain coach 25 years ago some of those coaches will hold a grudge its just human nature and that's the problem....Human Nature.....RTR

    i agree. i say let's keep what we have with the mix of human polls and computer. and make the human polls transparent from day one not just the last poll. i think then you would have much more consistent polling throughout the season.

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  • BamaBornDukie said...

    I'll be the dissident poster as Boise St is a legit squad including going 9-1 in their last 10 games against top 25 out of conference opponents. These wins have included the Big 12 Champ, PAC-10 Champ, and the ACC Champ. Most of these games were to start the season or bowl games so the opponent had equal preparation time...

    I do not think anyone argues that they are a quality team, and yes they have "some" quality wins. The thing I ask myself every year is IF THEY WERE IN THE SEC, BIG TEN, OR ANY TOP FLIGHT CONFERENCE... WOULD THEY HAVE THEIR RECORD. My answer year after year is simply NO.

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