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Massive cuts at state newspapers today

  • A lot of good people are losing their jobs today.

    Employees at the Advance Publications’ papers in Birmingham, Mobile and Huntsville, in addition to the The Times-Picayune in New Orleans, are all having short individual meetings in which they're finding out if they still have jobs.

    The cuts are due to the decision to only published printed editions of the newspapers three days a week beginning this fall, with everything else online.

    According to a story by the Poynter Institute website, a source who has seen the list of the targeted positions at the Birmingham News, 60 percent of the editorial staff is getting cut.

    (Note: I know some of you are going to make comments about progress, and how you may or may not like the papers involved, for those of us in the industry this is unbelievably sad. It definitely has a death-in-the-family feel to it).

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    Christopher Walsh covers Alabama football for BamaOnline, 247Sports, and is the author of 18 books.

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  • According to an al.com story, covering its own story, about 400 Advance employees will lose their jobs in Alabama alone today.

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    Christopher Walsh covers Alabama football for BamaOnline, 247Sports, and is the author of 18 books.

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  • It's never good when anyone loses their job, especially on a massive scale, and this is a permanent change in the entire journalism industry, so it feels even more significant...

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    crimsonbleeder

  • Beyond the papers this will have an impact on the entire state. Thats 400 salaries gone. 400 tax payers without incomes. Very sad indeed.

    scottchap

  • Peter Finney fired from Times-Picayune. Been employed there since 1945

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  • Chris Walsh said...

    According to an al.com story, covering its own story, about 400 Advance employees will lose their jobs in Alabama alone today.

    Some have learned their fate via AL.com before the company told them personally. That's pretty freaking pathetic right there.

    The article talks about which jobs are being shifted elsewhere. One employee I know is having his job shifted to another location, yet he has not been told anything officially by his employer yet.

    http://blog.al.com/al/2012/06/alabama_newspapers_alcom_notif.html

    This post was edited by tydephan on 6/12/2012 at 12:10 PM

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  • samp21 said...

    Peter Finney fired from Times-Picayune. Been employed there since 1945

    WOW.....

    RMFT81

  • Firings at Times-Picayune total 49% of newsroom staff.

    LSU announces that Peter Finney has a permanent seat in the press box in Tiger Stadium for any and all LSU football games.

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    Christopher Walsh covers Alabama football for BamaOnline, 247Sports, and is the author of 18 books.

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  • Very, very sad situation.

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    Lucky

  • Chris Walsh said...

    Firings at Times-Picayune total 49% of newsroom staff.

    LSU announces that Peter Finney has a permanent seat in the press box in Tiger Stadium for any and all LSU football games.

    That is unbelievable, very sad day, we've had a subscription for the Register in my household growing up for years...extremely sad for all these families

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  • Chris Walsh said...

    Firings at Times-Picayune total 49% of newsroom staff.

    LSU announces that Peter Finney has a permanent seat in the press box in Tiger Stadium for any and all LSU football games.

    They also fired Brett Anderson, who is the most respected food critic in the nation. Very sad situation.

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  • The private sector is doing fine.

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  • Three Putt1 said...

    The private sector is doing fine.

    Hahahaha!!!! I see what just happened.

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  • It just baffles me that the majority (if not all) of the newspapers in the country didn't see the writing on the wall in regards to moving all of their content to the internet. Could have saved a lot of jobs and "papers" IMO.

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  • Baka13 said...

    They also fired Brett Anderson, who is the most respected food critic in the nation. Very sad situation.

    Huge mistake on their part IMO. Now he can either go work for a big paper that's still going okay (like in New York) or he's going to get picked up by an online source. The latter is hilariously ironic, because the TP could have kept him on to do work online. I can't figure out if some of these newspaper owners/runners still don't feel confident in the internet or are simply against it.

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  • tydephan said...

    Some have learned their fate via AL.com before the company told them personally. That's pretty freaking pathetic right there.

    The article talks about which jobs are being shifted elsewhere. One employee I know is having his job shifted to another location, yet he has not been told anything officially by his employer yet.

    http://blog.al.com/al/2012/06/alabama_newspapers_alcom_notif.html

    That's awful communication from the employers to have their employees learn they lose their job via internet and not in person. One could go as far as saying cowardly.

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  • Three Putt1 said...

    The private sector is doing fine.

    Funny, but this isn't related to the economy. Its hard to hear about large layoffs for any reason, but this is most similar to layoffs in the horse-drawn buggy industry as the automobile gained in popularity. Changes in technology create new industries at the expense of the old ones.

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  • sf2k4 said...

    It just baffles me that the majority (if not all) of the newspapers in the country didn't see the writing on the wall in regards to moving all of their content to the internet. Could have saved a lot of jobs and "papers" IMO.

    Moving to the internet was not going to save jobs, regardless of when it is done. It takes bodies to design pages, edit pages, run a press and deliver papers. Those jobs are not needed for the internet.

    This post was edited by ASBamaguy on 6/12/2012 at 2:18 PM

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  • ASBamaguy said...

    Moving to the internet was not going to save jobs, regardless of when it is done. It takes bodies to design pages, edit pages, run a press and deliver papers. Those jobs are not needed for the internet.

    You still need designers and proofreaders on the web. It's not like they're just slapping up Word .docs on blank white pages.

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  • Now, you realize just how so many people at Kodak Camera (AND FILM) felt (some there for better than 40 years)....people at Polaroid.
    The long-term forecast for the publication of "printed books" and currrent Libraries is just as bleak.

    I could go on and on,,,,"Incandescent Light Bulbs".......

    The buzz words that are bantered about for all this, of course, is "TECHNOLOGY AND PROGESS"

    Memories of the Birmingham News, The Birmingham Post herald (and so many others) as wonderful, magical newspapers go back well over 60 years for me, now...some of the 'long gone' great, great sports writers that hold a special place in my memories.

    Not in everything, but in some ways I have alwasy been somewhat of a 'dinosaur', myself, in my personal preferences, although ironically, I'm also happen to be heavily involved with the sciences and technologies that made many of these changes, possible...helped bring them about, successfully. So, as a consequence, my emotions run mixed with just a twinge of guilt, too, for having made my livlihood this way).

    On a side note, I've always preferred great newspapers to 20 second TV News "surface only" 'sound bites' because of the in-depth and 'real meat' of a story that good printed media generally provided versus TV News that could never ever provide that level of detail. However, I was also very saddened over the years to see the steady erosion and journalistic degradation of pure news, by more and more "editorialized versions" of news stories on the front pages rather than strict reporting of the story, itself...completely foreign to traditonal journalistic rules about keeping editorial opinions / platforms strictly on the EDITORIAL PAGE (ONLY) where they rightfully belong!!!!.

    The bottom line is that we all should mourn the past some, if only to validate us as human beings, but have to go forward...SOMEHOW ADAPT! Learn, retrain when necessary, accept the conditions which we can't change...coping with life.

    symosk

  • I spent time working with the Newhouse family. Had they had more foresight - like NOT building the new place for the Bham News, not having "contracts fr life", and many others, then the cuts today likely would my have been as deep. The family is unimaginably wealthy and the kids all wok in the business, so they are "earning" their pay. That said, they are all livin off old money and have been too resistant to change for too long in the print side. These loses could/should have been spread over the past five years instead of a span of five hours today.

    Sad for those losin their jobs today. Very sad. Some good people affected in bad ways by all of vision over past few years.

    ETA: the decision to print Wed, Fri, & Sun is transparent. Wednesday is a grocery day, Friday is weekend sales day, and Sunday is sales ads and coupons. Those three days are their most profitable from ad revenue standpoint. I'd those days didn't deliver ad revenue they wouldn't print any more at all. It isn't about serving consumer with news (they do that online). It is about financial survival - and I'm not saying its wrong.

    This post was edited by BeastlyTide on 6/12/2012 at 3:04 PM

    That's what's pasa!

    BeastlyTide

  • Three Putt1 said...

    The private sector is doing fine.

    People are not buying newspapers because it's a outdated format, not because they cant afford to buy them. Did Rush Limbaugh teach you that?

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Run37 on 6/12/2012 at 3:09 PM

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  • Chris,
    Certainly a sad day for the employees involved. What is your take on the long term viability of the regional printed press? Question whether going to a three day print schedule is enough to make the papers profitable Iong term.
    Thanks,

    sbreeze

  • Well we will have around 100 new bloggers now.

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