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paebert said...
Overrated in what sense, I don't think Mathieu translates well to the NFL but the guy absolutely makes plays at the collegiate level, forced fumbles, punt returns, kick returns. He is more dynamic on defense than arenas was but not as dynamic in the kicking game. He would be the perfect nickel back in our defense. Just my .02.
My vote for most overrated goes to Tyler Bray as well he gets credit for being 6'5 and having a big arm, but the results against good teams aren't there.
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paebert said...
Overrated in what sense, I don't think Mathieu translates well to the NFL but the guy absolutely makes plays at the collegiate level, forced fumbles, punt returns, kick returns. He is more dynamic on defense than arenas was but not as dynamic in the kicking game. He would be the perfect nickel back in our defense. Just my .02.
My vote for most overrated goes to Tyler Bray as well he gets credit for being 6'5 and having a big arm, but the results against good teams aren't there.
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majorthreat17 said...
I am also going to go with Matt Barkley as being highly overrated. He plays in a terrible conference full of terrible defenses. He doesnt play great in big games, etc. I think he gets a ton more hype strictly b/c he plays at USC. I thought mark sanchez was terrible when he came and I was right. Players from USC get glorified b/c they play for USC. Barkley is another classic example. In my own humble opinion of course.
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8:16a.m. said...
KC Joyner is garbage. Last year he tried to prove to everyone that Alabama's pass defense was overrated. However, for the most part this article is pretty spot on. 5 of his six are certainly overrated. Lattimore is not overrated. BBD has some personal grudge vs lattimore. Although ACL injuries suck they aren't devastating anymore. Not worried about his knee. The only two things that can slow him down are spurrier and connor shaw
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by BamaBornDukie on 7/27/2012 at 9:04 AM
Jabrill Peppers...More I watch, the more I'm convinced he is the best player in the 2014 class. Barring injury, he will do special things.
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BamaBornDukie said...
In terms of evaluating football talent I've not come across anybody on this site that I feel is better at doing it than I am. From Greg Reid-2009, Robert Nkemdiche-2010, Tyren Jones-2011, Joshua Dobbs-2011 (Who Bama really should have recruited.....not to mention the kid is from Birmingham and has offers from Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Duke).....
With Greg Reid, I was posting about him during the Fall 2008 "before he blew up" and folks here said he wasn't Div I material. With Nkemdiche "before he blew up" I posted his 10th grade video in December 2010/Jan 2011 on BOL and like 2 people made a comment. I posted Tyren Jones stuff for 2 months in the Fall 2011 before anyone paid any attention. I've been posting that Joshua Dobbs was the most underrated prospect in the class of 2013 since back in Dec 2011/Jan 2012........now he's gone Elite 11 Finalists and will be bumped up to 4 star QB. .I can continue if need to as I mentioned each of these guys on BOL before the analysts even mentioned them.
Cam Newton- I posted here during the 2010 Season that he was going 1st Round......as the season progressed I posted top 10.....then top 5....then #1 overall. People here said I was "clueless". Yeah, we see how that turned out. I AIN'T new to this evaluating talent stuff. Check South Carolina's statistics and winning percentage with & without Lattimore in 2011.
Again, you don't give ME MY OPINION..... And my opinion is that Lattimore is 1 of the most overrated players in college football in the past 30 years.
You analyze the in-depth stats, in particular against top 30 defenses and prove otherwise. While you're at...... Go research my post history and tell me how often I'm wrong on prospects.
Again...... I ain't new to this.
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BamaBornDukie said...
Marcus Lattimore is one of the most overrated players I can recall in 30+ years of following college football. Had a chance to see him play his senior year at Byrnes High School as they traveled to ATL metro for a game. He was very solid fundamentally with good size but lacked big play ability. A closer look at his yards per carry and more specifically against top 30 defenses (3.9 yards per carry)...... Coupled with coming off an ACL injury..... I don't think he's an elite NFL prospect. Again, he is a good player with good pass catching skills but he lacks shiftiness and speed.
Matthieu- Overrated as a CB. Great player when he can "roam" as well as on special teams. Needs to bulk and play safety in the NFL as his play-making ability reminds me of Troy Polamalu who is also a liability in 1on1 coverage. Kid has the caused fumble record at LSU in only 2 years and he's a human joystick on punt returns but he lacks the speed and "fundamentals" to be an elite CB. His height doesn't bother me but I do think he needs to bulk up to 200 pounds and play safety as Bob Sanders won NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2007 at safety at 5'8".
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In terms of evaluating football talent I've not come across anybody on this site that I feel is better at doing it than I am. From Greg Reid-2009, Robert Nkemdiche-2010, Tyren Jones-2011, Joshua Dobbs-2011 (Who Bama really should have recruited.....not to mention the kid is from Birmingham and has offers from Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Duke).....
With Greg Reid, I was posting about him during the Fall 2008 "before he blew up" and folks here said he wasn't Div I material. With Nkemdiche "before he blew up" I posted his 10th grade video in December 2010/Jan 2011 on BOL and like 2 people made a comment. I posted Tyren Jones stuff for 2 months in the Fall 2011 before anyone paid any attention. I've been posting that Joshua Dobbs was the most underrated prospect in the class of 2013 since back in Dec 2011/Jan 2012........now he's gone Elite 11 Finalists and will be bumped up to 4 star QB. .I can continue if need to as I mentioned each of these guys on BOL before the analysts even mentioned them.
Cam Newton- I posted here during the 2010 Season that he was going 1st Round......as the season progressed I posted top 10.....then top 5....then #1 overall. People here said I was "clueless". Yeah, we see how that turned out. I AIN'T new to this evaluating talent stuff. Check South Carolina's statistics and winning percentage with & without Lattimore in 2011.
Again, you don't give ME MY OPINION..... And my opinion is that Lattimore is 1 of the most overrated players in college football in the past 30 years.
You analyze the in-depth stats, in particular against top 30 defenses and prove otherwise. While you're at...... Go research my post history and tell me how often I'm wrong on prospects.
Again...... I ain't new to this.
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Most overrated players in college football?