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  • Bleedscrimson said...

    Well, here's a quote from the Executive Sports Editor of the Tuscaloosa News. He was asked why no media member had asked the question, and he gave a rather lengthy response. This was the quote I was looking for though:

    "Alabama is obviously directional kicking -- Saban has addressed this before. He wants hang time and likes to kick it away from the returners instead of right to them, because it makes it harder for the opponent to set up blocks on returns. Hang time is essential to avoid what Maze did to Florida -- a line-drive kick into the end zone that got returned 70 yards in game-changing fashion because the coverage unit didn't have time to fill the lanes.

    I hope that helps someone understand the media end of why it hasn't been asked, and why UA kicks the ball higher and shorter instead of lower and longer, and why the kicks are aimed to one corner of the field or other."

    I'm sure he's just an idiot, though. He just speaks to Coach Saban on an almost daily basis. I'm sure there's nothing to it. It'd be pure stupidity to intentionally kick the ball to the 10 yard line. Ya know... for those kickoff coverage angles. moon

    BOOM. crackwhip

    If you are right then good for you, but until you can provide a link then no one knows if you just fabricated that entire quote. I am not saying you did but I am saying that until you do .....no one will know. BTW after rewatching the game you are probably right (did it work? no because Demps outran the both contains anyways) but the reason you caught so much flack is the way you presented it. I am going to refrain from going into detail but there is a general stereotype that you are asking for when you come on here and basically say that everyone else is stupid and you know what the coach is thinking because you played some football. I sit in front of a guy like that at every home game and he drives me bat crazy.

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  • roll_tide_55 said...

    If you are right then good for you, but until you can provide a link then no one knows if you just fabricated that entire quote. I am not saying you did but I am saying that until you do .....no one will know. BTW after rewatching the game you are probably right (did it work? no because Demps outran the both contains anyways) but the reason you caught so much flack is the way you presented it. I am going to refrain from going into detail but there is a general stereotype that you are asking for when you come on here and basically say that everyone else is stupid and you know what the coach is thinking because you played some football. I sit in front of a guy like that at every home game and he drives me bat crazy.

    you probably sit in front of 'Bleedscrimson"...:)

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  • thrill2k1 said...

    you probably sit in front of 'Bleedscrimson"...:)

    HAHA probably.

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  • roll_tide_55 said...

    I have brought nothing but backhanded insults and sarcastic crap? Let us revisit much of this thread:

    QUOTATIONS FROM BLEEDSCRIMSON:

    “Thanks for adding something to the thread. To those of you choosing to downvote this thread, I can guarantee you that Coach Saban would tell you the exact same thing I just did. Some of you screaming "WHY CAN'T WE JUST KICK THE DAYUM BAWL DEEP?!?" need to relax and realize it's being done for a reason.”

    “Probably so, but it bugs the hell out of me. Some of the folks in this thread are the same ones we sit by on Saturdays who scream and yell and cuss and complain the entire game because they think we just have the worst kicker in the SEC. That's actually why I started this thread. I sat by TWO men last night who would do that after every single kickoff... "WHY CAN'T WE GET A DAYUM KICKER TO KICK THE BAWL?" "DAMMIT! KICK THE DAYUM BAWL BOY!" "WHY THE HELL CAN'T WE GET A DAYUM KICKER THAT CAN KICK THE DAYUM BAWL HARDER THAN THAYAT? You get my point lol...”

    “If he had the leg to kick it out of the endzone, that's what we'd be doing. He doesn't, so we aren't. How difficult is that to understand?”

    END OF QUOTATIONS FROM BLEEDSCRIMSON

    Look it's your "I know more about football than the rest of you" and the "I know the coaching staff" attitude that has gotten you the flack and downvotes. You are the one who got way too defensive. You played some football at a D2 or lower level.....guess what so has thousands of other kids thousands of other kids. I am sorry but that doesn't make you special. And I don't know what the staff has said on the topic but I have a hard time believing that Cade Foster is purposely kicking it to the 15 and especially after watching our kicker make 2 touchdown saving tackles last night,

    I was going to wait till I got to end of this post to reply, but come on roll tide...

    None of those quotes shows an insult. They are quotes of what he heard at the game and stuff he read on this internet site. He should probably just give up convincing you but he doesn't. Downfall of this thread.

    Saban himself has addressed this issue. It is by design. He has said it during a press conference. Of course the design is for the 5 yd line, not the 10 or 15. If I can find it, I will post it.

    You are insulting him. It seems no matter what his experience, you put it down, not sure why. If he said he was Houston D. Nutt, you would say, "well your team sucks right now."

    Anyway...we all love Bama. We were not happy with kick coverage early in the game, and I'm sure the coaches weren't either. I would love to kick the ball out of the endzone. Our opps avg the 24 yd line, then the 20 would be 4 yds better, right? But noone can do that. This is Saban's strategy, like it or not. Just need to be more consistant about getting it to the 5yd line.

    RTR!!! JMHO.

    JCB206

  • Bleedscrimson said...

    Until last night, our opponents averaged starting at the 24. Pretty. Damn. Good.

    But I'm a moron.

    I'm going to attempt to get this questioned asked by the media directly to Coach Saban. The response from some of you will be hilarious.

    He already addressed it.

    JCB206

  • JCB206 said...

    I was going to wait till I got to end of this post to reply, but come on roll tide...

    None of those quotes shows an insult. They are quotes of what he heard at the game and stuff he read on this internet site. He should probably just give up convincing you but he doesn't. Downfall of this thread.

    Saban himself has addressed this issue. It is by design. He has said it during a press conference. Of course the design is for the 5 yd line, not the 10 or 15. If I can find it, I will post it.

    You are insulting him. It seems no matter what his experience, you put it down, not sure why. If he said he was Houston D. Nutt, you would say, "well your team sucks right now."

    Anyway...we all love Bama. We were not happy with kick coverage early in the game, and I'm sure the coaches weren't either. I would love to kick the ball out of the endzone. Our opps avg the 24 yd line, then the 20 would be 4 yds better, right? But noone can do that. This is Saban's strategy, like it or not. Just need to be more consistant about getting it to the 5yd line.

    RTR!!! JMHO.

    You are totally wrong.....If he were Houston Nutt I would go to his house and laugh in his face. biggrin

    You are right I probably took things too personal. Fact is I stereotyped him and who knows I could be right/ I could be wrong. It doesn't matter. It is a message board and none of us know each other so that kind of thing is going to happen.

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  • Really? He doesn't have the leg? did anyone on here see his highlight videos from high school... The kid may be inconsistant, but he has a boot. kicking it high is part of the strategy, maybe too many of yall are watching Auburn's kicker Parky and getting jealous... i would love for him too be more consistant, but the kid does have the leg to do it... Im pretty sure he showed that atleast once last night...

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  • Most of the folks I talk to understand that this is the strategy based on Foster's limitations. What we can't comprehend is why we CAN'T FIND A KICKER who can consistently kick it 5 yards or more into the EZ. 6 out of the 12 kickers in the conference can do it. Why do we have the best collection of athletes outside the NFL but can't get a freaking kicker with a strong leg?

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  • Kicking high and short in order to limit return setup is fine as a strategy......IF you're doing it because your kicker CAN'T kick it to (or thru) the back of the endzone. I assume this is why we are doing it. However, if this is Saban's strategy by choice I personally think it's a poor one. I want a big leg kicker who can put it through the back of the endzone and I see no reason why we can't find one.

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  • From Saban at the PC today: Saban on Cade Foster kickoffs: "Not high and short by design. I wish he'd kick it in the stands."

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  • H.E.Pennypacker said...

    From Saban at the PC today: Saban on Cade Foster kickoffs: "Not high and short by design. I wish he'd kick it in the stands."

    boom?

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  • Second part of saban quote is that cade kicks it long during practice and then can't seem to do it right during games. Said he needs to take fundamentals from practice to game.

    scottchap

  • So much fail. I like it when people act like they know what they're talking about when they really don't.

    clayclay

  • H.E.Pennypacker said...

    From Saban at the PC today: Saban on Cade Foster kickoffs: "Not high and short by design. I wish he'd kick it in the stands."

    This!

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  • H.E.Pennypacker said...

    From Saban at the PC today: Saban on Cade Foster kickoffs: "Not high and short by design. I wish he'd kick it in the stands."

    Yup - just heard Saban say that on WJOX.

    Bama Swoosh

  • Would it take Coach Saban addressing the issue himself? If he did and stated it is done intentionally would you make fun of him, tell him he's stupid, or that he's FOS?

    Just wondering...

    Okay Bleedscrimson........Are you gonna make fun of him and tell him he is stupid or that he is FOS?

    Just wondering

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  • This could get interesting...arguepray

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  • H.E.Pennypacker said...

    From Saban at the PC today: Saban on Cade Foster kickoffs: "Not high and short by design. I wish he'd kick it in the stands."

    Thank you! I guess all of us that are dumb and didn't accept your opinion as truth are all meany heads? Just admit you were wrong, it will be ok.dramaqueen

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  • nm

    This post was edited by Thez222 on 10/3/2011 at 1:13 PM

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  • roll_tide_55 said...

    Okay Bleedscrimson........Are you gonna make fun of him and tell him he is stupid or that he is FOS?

    Just wondering

    Nope. It appears I was flat wrong.

    A little confused as to what Saban has said in the past that has made fairly reputable people in the press assume it's been by design.

    I concede. I also came across as a jackass in some of the posts in this thread. I apologize for that.

    Bleedscrimson

  • Bleedscrimson said...

    Nope. It appears I was flat wrong.

    A little confused as to what Saban has said in the past that has made fairly reputable people in the press assume it's been by design.

    I concede. I also came across as a jackass in some of the posts in this thread. I apologize for that.

    clapAtleast you are man enough to say you were wrong and apologize. I accept your apology and I apologize for taking things personal. cheers

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  • Bleedscrimson said...

    Nope. It appears I was flat wrong.

    A little confused as to what Saban has said in the past that has made fairly reputable people in the press assume it's been by design.

    I concede. I also came across as a jackass in some of the posts in this thread. I apologize for that.

    +1 for manning up bro. Roll Tide! We are all on the same side.

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