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  • Everyone is up in arms about how strong, tough, and "saban like" this front 7 is, but one thing is constantly overlooked; they gave up 174 or 175 yards to Pitt's rb alone and won in 3OT on a shanked chip shot. IMHO that is nearly the equivalent of iowa state oksu last year. This team has not seen two stellar backs or the oline that we have yet they have still been susceptible to the run. Granted, if we play poorly or have mental mistakes they can hang around and attempt an upset, but I feel their depth will be a serious issue as the game wears on. Golston has been compared to Manziel but doesnt have anywhere near the stats, around a 20 TD difference and over 1,000 in additional rushing yards. It's gonna be a great game but I don't see us falling to 6-1 to the irish and us "cousins and mobile homers" will be laughing and spitting our tobaccky all the way back to the heart of Dixie, while the "golden homos" accept the grim reality. Your thoughts.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by bamastud2 on 12/17/2012 at 3:53 PM

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  • bamastud2 said...

    Everyone is up in arms about how strong, tough, and "saban like" this front 7 is, but one thing is constantly overlooked; they gave up 174 or 175 yards to Pitt's rb alone and won in 3OT on a shanked chip shot. IMHO that is nearly the equivalent of iowa state oksu last year. This has not seen two stellar backs or the oline that we have yet they have still been susceptible to the run. Granted, if we play poorly or have mental mistakes they can hang around and attempt an upset, but I feel their depth will be a serious issue as the game wears on. Golston has been compared to Manziel but doesnt have anywhere near the stats, around a 20 TD difference and over 1,000 in additional rushing yards. It's gonna be a great game but I don't see us falling to 6-1 to the irish and us "cousins and mobile homers" will be laughing and spitting our tobaccky all the way back to the heart of Dixie, while the "golden homos" accept the grim reality. Your thoughts.

    I have faith in our O line & Lacy & Yeldon; we will know early if we can run on them & the tone of the game. Golston shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Johnny Heisman Football.

    My prediction is that we win 34-10.

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  • May not know early, may be the second half when reality kicks in for them.

    barneyjones

  • lol@ golden homos

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  • HUNH to wear them down like UGa

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  • bamastud2 said...

    Everyone is up in arms about how strong, tough, and "saban like" this front 7 is, but one thing is constantly overlooked; they gave up 174 or 175 yards to Pitt's rb alone and won in 3OT on a shanked chip shot. IMHO that is nearly the equivalent of iowa state oksu last year. This team has not seen two stellar backs or the oline that we have yet they have still been susceptible to the run. Granted, if we play poorly or have mental mistakes they can hang around and attempt an upset, but I feel their depth will be a serious issue as the game wears on. Golston has been compared to Manziel but doesnt have anywhere near the stats, around a 20 TD difference and over 1,000 in additional rushing yards. It's gonna be a great game but I don't see us falling to 6-1 to the irish and us "cousins and mobile homers" will be laughing and spitting our tobaccky all the way back to the heart of Dixie, while the "golden homos" accept the grim reality. Your thoughts.

    My only fear is that we come out throwing like we did against LSU, A&M and UGA. If we are committed to the run I just do not see how they can win the game. If we come out throwing and turn the ball over like we did against A&M and UGA then we may be in for a dogfight.

    I'm not talking about running it everydown but I am talking about running it 60 percent of the time which is much different than we did against LSU, A&M and UGA (in the first qtr).

    Run the ball. Play action and run it again. If we do that for 4 qtrs we win going away IMO. If not, we may be in for a nail biter with a few TO's.

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  • they beat oklahoma, stanford and usc. they can beat us too. i'm hoping we stomp them just like anyone, but i think it's gonna be a tough game. even the lucky teams can win it all. auburn did it.

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  • AlreadyNProcess said...

    they beat oklahoma, stanford and usc. they can beat us too. i'm hoping we stomp them just like anyone, but i think it's gonna be a tough game. even the lucky teams can win it all. auburn did it.

    I agree they could beat us. I also believe each of the teams you mentioned finish at best, 7th in the SEC.

    If Stanford can lose to Washington...who LSU beat by almost 6 TDs. They are at best 7th in the SEC. USC, very similar to Tenn (see a connectino there...good qb, 2 good wrs, decent running game, no defense...the main common demoninator...Kiffin's influence on both teams).

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  • They have a very good front 7.

    I think it is funny how we (fans in general, not just Bama fans) cling to 1 game and ignore the others. They played bad in the Pitt game and scraped by. Well we played horrible for entire half (save 1 minute) against LSU, which we know is a very good team. But we still looked horrible. We lost to A&M playing bad. And then we gave up a ton of yardage in the SECCG.

    We have warts also. ND does too. I don't think you can take 1 game and use that as your only evidence when they have an entire body of work to look at. They have been very good in that front 7 over the course of a season. Hell, I don't care who you play when they throw out that stat of the ND defense where in goal to go situations (not sure if this is the case or if it is redzone) where they have given up negative yardage. That is amazing and should silence any doubt about their front 7.

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  • DEHIII said...

    They have a very good front 7.

    I think it is funny how we (fans in general, not just Bama fans) cling to 1 game and ignore the others. They played bad in the Pitt game and scraped by. Well we played horrible for entire half (save 1 minute) against LSU, which we know is a very good team. But we still looked horrible. We lost to A&M playing bad. And then we gave up a ton of yardage in the SECCG.

    We have warts also. ND does too. I don't think you can take 1 game and use that as your only evidence when they have an entire body of work to look at. They have been very good in that front 7 over the course of a season. Hell, I don't care who you play when they throw out that stat of the ND defense where in goal to go situations (not sure if this is the case or if it is redzone) where they have given up negative yardage. That is amazing and should silence any doubt about their front 7.

    Well stated.

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  • There is not an undefeated team that has never had to scrape by and survive a game. Look at Auburn in the Iron Bowl, Alabama against UT, etc. this is going to be a tough hard fought game, much like LSU and UGA

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  • DEHIII said...

    They have a very good front 7.

    I think it is funny how we (fans in general, not just Bama fans) cling to 1 game and ignore the others. They played bad in the Pitt game and scraped by. Well we played horrible for entire half (save 1 minute) against LSU, which we know is a very good team. But we still looked horrible. We lost to A&M playing bad. And then we gave up a ton of yardage in the SECCG.

    We have warts also. ND does too. I don't think you can take 1 game and use that as your only evidence when they have an entire body of work to look at. They have been very good in that front 7 over the course of a season. Hell, I don't care who you play when they throw out that stat of the ND defense where in goal to go situations (not sure if this is the case or if it is redzone) where they have given up negative yardage. That is amazing and should silence any doubt about their front 7.

    If it was just one game...then I would agree. However, BYU, Pitt, Purdue, and MIch shows a pattern. Not one game.

    Also, hard to argue with anyone that compares a game against Pitt to a game against LSU. A team littered with guys that would never make an SEC roster to a team littered with NFL players.

    Also, their great D that supposed shut down the dominant rushing attacks of Stanford and MSU yielded an avg ypc of 4.1 to Bell and and 3.6 to Taylor (who at the time was only avg 4 ypc...his ypc drastically increased after the addition of Hogan at qb). So in context their two greatest achievements have been holding the two best backs they have played all year to under a half yard a carry of their avg. Not very impressive to me. Also, Stanford and MSU are ranked 60th and 80th in rushing ypc. I just can't figure how that is impressive to hold those two teams to marginally below their avg.

    When you figure Michigan, Wisc and Ohio State all held Bell to a lower ypc avg than ND (the other 3 best teams on their schedule) puts it in a little more context for me.

    Their front 7 is good. And I have said it before. If we play bad and turn the ball over we could lose. If not, I just don't see how this isn't a 3 td win (more if we wanted it to be).

    Again, their most impressive win came against Stanford. The team Washington beat (yes you can have bad days) and LSu beat them 41-3 and teh game wasn't that close. Stanford ran for less than 100 on Washington. LSU ran for 250 yds.

    This post was edited by cwaters2 on 12/18/2012 at 11:05 AM

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  • SP105 said...

    There is not an undefeated team that has never had to scrape by and survive a game. Look at Auburn in the Iron Bowl, Alabama against UT, etc. this is going to be a tough hard fought game, much like LSU and UGA

    I would agree with this. However, scraping by 5 times is an exception. Not the rule.

    It is similar to the Buckeyes in 02. Every break went their way. Just like this ND team. They could be 8-4 just like they are 12-0.

    cwaters2

  • The only real argument ND can make regarding the close wins vs inferior opponents is that Gohlson (sp?) has dramatically improved. That is true but he certainly can't be considered one of the best QBs and that's what you need to compete against us. 19-6 is still my guess.

    bamamba1989

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