BOL Round Table

Damn that was dirty. Wasnt that Pittman? Haslem's was on Hansborough.

I watched the play live. It was dirty as hell. He made no attempt on the ball and used 2 hands and smacked his face he was nowhere near the ball. Should have been a flagarant 2 and ejected from the game. Especially when comparing the other flagarant 1 foul that was called minutes before this one.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-granger-haslem-hansbrough-foul-mikeb-20120522,0,4931029.story

Its not attaching the link correctly. So copy and paste the link and it works. weird.

It was no more intentional than Hansbrough's foul on Wade. Both were dirty plays and were officiated properly.

I imagine that Hansbrough, Haslem and Pittman will all get fines along with both teams getting a warning that they are under a zero tolerance policy from here forward.

I agree. However, it will be lumped in with the other 2.

No, no, no. Hansbrough's was totally different. He definitely got Wade in the head but he was making a play on the ball. In fact, he got part of the ball but also got Wade on the follow through. Wasn't dirty.

Haslem and Pittman's were completely dirty. Neither made a play on the ball or were anywhere near the ball. Haslem used two hands to mug Hansbrough in the face in a clear act of retribution, ball was nowhere near where Haslem went, while Pittman simply elbowed the guy in the neck while neither player even had the ball. Pittman even winked at someone after, saw it live.

Haslem's and Pittman's should have been flagrant 2's. I didn't even think Hansbrough's was a flagrant 1 but was ok with it. I think you'll see by the NBA's reaction that I'm right.

In the context of the game in its entirety you can't separate the foul that warranted retaliation.

Hansbrough brought blood and nearly took a player out of the game.

Ultimately, Hansbrough was called for a Flagrant 1 just like the other 2. Every thing else is opinion regarding what happened. You won't see the NBA use opinion when it comes to fines or suspensions. You will see them lump them all in together.

"warranted retaliation"? The foul by Hansbrough did not warrant retaliation(IMO). It didnt even look bad live. Looked more unfortunate than anything. And Haslem was an idiot to do that cause now he is likely going to be suspended for game 6.

And probably Pittman as well, i mean he went directly at the dudes throat.

As far as Hansbrough i would be surprised if anything happened to him whether a fine or suspension. As i do not see either warranted. IMO.

Havent seen last nights' controversial fouls but I remember Haslem trying to rough up Gerald Wallace at Coleman in 2001 while with Florida. He would try to hit Wallace with an elbow to the body whenever he set a pick on him. You could tell he wanted to be extra physical with the top recruit in the country and I recall thinking that guy is a thug.

Exactly. Then Bird calling them Soft after the game doesn't help the impression that Hansbrough's foul was merely unfortunate.

Classic case of bullies don't like when you fight back. They have been grabbing, holding, and taking "hard/dirty" fouls the entire series and Miami tried to play above board. Miami got sick of it and hit back. Pacers couldn't take it, got their ass whipped, and went home whining. Seeing Granger leave game was rewarding too. So tired of seeing his Lebron envy spew off onto the court. Last night was really as simple as the Pacers can dish it but can't take it.

That's all well and good but now Haslem and Pittman could face suspensions. Haslem's was dumb, Pittman's was unbelievably dumb. They were up 35 with like 30 seconds left in the game. They should have stayed cool, just beat their ass on the court, and left the dirty fouls alone. The Pacers haven't done anything as dirty as what those two did last night.

I've never liked Hansbrough and don't have a feeling either way towards Haslem or Pittman but I'm just calling it like I saw it. Will be interesting to see what Stern does.

Haslem's foul on Hansborough was definitelty a flagrent 2 ,as he never made a play on the ball and hit Hansborough with both arms in the face, even the announcers couldn't believe that it wasnt a 2 and stated he should have been kicked out and suspended for the next game. Now we'll see what king of b...., the league has.