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1tide said...
I mean really if u r a school like Ole Miss. How can you not take these types of recruits? It's really just laughable to even debate passing on 5 star prospects. Because it makes your class top heavy. U get these guys while you can get them. & then start building depth in the following class. If they can land 5 or 6 5 stars in this class. & build upon last season on the field this year. Chances are they will continue to bring in some really good talent.
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Bama Illinois said...
All fair points, but based on your theory, why haven't we seen schools like Arkansas, Vanderbilt, UT, Miss. st, hell LSU, S Carolina, etc have the same success. Not sure I buy Ole Miss being a "party school... do you realize what party they are know for? The tailgating on the Grove just "before" the game.... Last time I check players do not attend.
Now, I don't believe they are cheating, but this will be the best class they have ever signed. What is the real allure to Oxford?? time will tell, but I don't think Ole Miss is any different from the schools I mentioned. They are not experiencing a boon of recruiting.
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scottchap said...
Nobody is saying pass on a top tier guy.
The point isn't whether you should recruit potentially great players. The point is that the hand wringing and accusations of cheating are over blown when you look at the overall quality of their class. Top heavy classes don't make a team a top tier SEC team.
Classes like Ole Miss is getting this year will make them more competitive in a league where everyone has 4 to 5 NFL guys on the roster. The difference between and Alabama and LSwho hasn't been the top tier player. The difference is everyone else on the roster.
Recruiting 20 players 4 star or better is how we recruit. Ole Miss is getting a level of player their school has never had and that is great. However, if they are going to reach the top of the conference they will need to fill the rest of the class with 4 star players instead of 18 3 star players.
So, to recap nobody has said you give the top players to avoid being top heavy. If you want to prevent being top heavy then you improve the rest of the class by swapping 3 star players with 4 star players.
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mmatth3606 said...
New here so don't flame! I live in MS(sorry married a MS girl) and its a joke over here. Here is the rundown on how this is happening.
Nkemdiche has a brother, as we all know, and Mom wants them at same school. Kudos to Houston Nutt for this. Also, Dad has taken a job at the med school in Jax, Ms-Hmmm?
Conner, is from S.Panola, an OM football factory. There is a reason D Rudd and DeShea Townsend were the last 2 big time players that came to Bama. Also its only 20 miles from Oxford. Him and DeShea(new DB coach at MSU) are good friends and he may flip him. By the way Hoover smoked S.Panola.
CJones grew up a MSU fan and has a great relationship with that staff. His dad also is very tight with MSU. Doubt he flips.
LHooks was always an OM lock. He will start for them next year. The dline is sucks and they are small all PT for him.
LTreadwell is a big get for OM. However his mom is very religious and freeze played on that, he is always quoting scriptures to parents. She was the decision maker in that. And also grades . OM is easy to get into.
Treadwell and E Daniel are good friends from the recruiting circuit. He more than likely is prep school or JC bound.
Not sure about the others, except PT. They have no depth at OL, DL,LB, or DBs.
Freeze is a good coach. He's won at all stops. But he is that guy that plays this real religious role with parents. He is also cry baby HS coach that gets tight in big situations. Could have beat TAMU but had a 4th and in and had a 6'5 qb in the shotgun and ran a read option.
He and Frank Wilson were the bag men for Ogeron. Needless to say he is a little shady. Also his offense is a gimmick based on one read for the QB, like UM was at UF. They have no JManzeil or Tebow. Bo Wallace sucks an INT waiting to happen. The two QBs arent that good Kincade way to small in stature for this league. The prep school kid is ok but played in a weak league-MS private schools SUCK!! Neither can spin it that well. TIFIW but thats my 2 cents.camlee4 ●
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Jos Mit said...
Yep. And i made it clear, if Tunsil and Jones start being an OleMiss lean then i would call foul....so yes now im calling foul. All the others made sense but not them. I thought they may have fell into a few recruits but now. No way. Treadwell tweeting money and now Tunsil who has been down to UGA and Bama just randomly goes to OleMiss...doesnt happen
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Jos Mit said...
Yep. And i made it clear, if Tunsil and Jones start being an OleMiss lean then i would call foul....so yes now im calling foul. All the others made sense but not them. I thought they may have fell into a few recruits but now. No way. Treadwell tweeting money and now Tunsil who has been down to UGA and Bama just randomly goes to OleMiss...doesnt happen
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