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Picture proving Releford was fouled

  • I'm glad to see we actually have some fans that are passionate about Bama basketball (even if only as a distraction between the BCSNCG and the real start of spring practice). My opinion is that, yes, it was a foul. The ball doesn't fall that short unless it's tipped or the shooter is hit. However, I also feel that refs don't want to bail a team out who settles for a 22' jumper rather than taking it strong to the basket. If that is an aggressive play then we probably get that call. You can agree or disagree with it, but I feel that is why it wasn't called. Now, since it was Bama I wish he had made the call but, in general, I prefer the refs to reward aggressiveness in end game situations.

    Bottom line is that Creighton made a few more plays down the stretch than we did but we aquitted ourselves well.

    airbj01

  • pedgar said...

    So, if I am a basketball coach and the other team has a last second shot, I tell my team to grab the shooters arm. We arent talking about a block/charge close no call. This is a blatant foul where the defender hit nothing but the arm. That is a foul no matter when it is committed. I agree some calls are no calls near the end of the game but this was not one of those fouls. Why wouldnt you tell your players to grab someones arm on a last second shot if this call never gets called. Theres no way they would be able to beat you.

    This, guys, makes no sense. Should have been a foul and 3 shots.

    I didn't say it wasn't a foul but on the last shot of the game with a couple seconds left that ISN'T GETTING called. It makes no sense to whine about it when we pissed away a seven point lead in the second half AND everyone knows it is almost NEVER called in that situation.

    If the roles were reversed we would be saying great defense and that yea it could have been called but it hardly ever is and those are the breaks. I'm a fan of Alabama but my opinion on situations doesn't generally change based on who is wearing the uniform. I use my experience as a guide. lol.

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  • Bama Hoss said...

    Kentucky or North Carolina or Duke is shooting free throws

    My thoughts exaclty!!

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  • Jbstraiton said...

    Guys, we lost. Don't be that fan who uses the refs as an excuse. Some calls get called and some get missed. It's very difficult to make every call. We weren't going to win it all anyhow. Anyways, Roll Tide and maybe next year.

    I agree to some extent, hate to blame refs. But take away every other part of the game and focus on the last 2.4 seconds. Whether or not we have offense or whether or not we lost a 7 point lead.......if the ref makes the obvious call that is right in from of him, WE ARE going to win "anyhow". Relly would have hit 2 of 3, you know it.

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  • Thehit86 said...

    Anyone who has watched enough basketball will tell you 99% of the time that is a no call. Period. End of story. All this talk about us beiong on the line shooting 3 free throws is just a case of the poor me's as Saban would say. We lost a seven point lead in second half......that ref didn't determine the outcome.

    Could it have been called? Sure but we all know it almost always isn't so why are we pissing and moaning about it when we gave up a seven point lead?

    Bingo. Nobody is saying the kid's arm didn't get hit. But you don't get that call on a desperation heave in the last 2 seconds. You just don't. Im not saying its right but it's true. You can cry that it should be called the same regardless of situation. But that's not reality.

    Landshark22

  • Wilbur24795 said...

    I agree to some extent, hate to blame refs. But take away every other part of the game and focus on the last 2.4 seconds. Whether or not we have offense or whether or not we lost a 7 point lead.......if the ref makes the obvious call that is right in from of him, WE ARE going to win "anyhow". Relly would have hit 2 of 3, you know it.

    Look at the last 2.4 seconds of any other game where there was a last second shot. how many times has a guy gotten that call? It's just reality guys.

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  • It was a foul but we should have won anyway without relying on a call from the refs.

    This post was edited by MTA08 on 3/16/2012 at 6:06 PM

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    Roll Tide!

    MTA08

  • Thehit86 said...

    Look at the last 2.4 seconds of any other game where there was a last second shot. how many times has a guy gotten that call? It's just reality guys.

    And the reason is simple. Most people don't want to see a bunch of games end with a guy shooting free throws.

    If the shooter was from Creighton and their fans were whining these same BOLers would be saying LOL you don't get that call, stop crying you blew a 11 pt 2nd half lead.

    Landshark22

  • Landshark22 said...

    Bingo. Nobody is saying the kid's arm didn't get hit. But you don't get that call on a desperation heave in the last 2 seconds. You just don't. Im not saying its right but it's true. You can cry that it should be called the same regardless of situation. But that's not reality.

    Nobody fouls like that on a desperation shot because that was really stupid. It was an obvious and utterly stupid foul on a low percentage three at the end of the game. The Creighton player (Jones) is counting his lucky stars that he didn’t get hit with what would have been one the dumbest fouls I have ever seen. It wasn't even close.

    If the idea is that you don’t call fouls on last second shots then people should wise up to that and just foul blatantly every time. Nobody would ever hit a jump shot to win a game because it is literally impossible to hit a jump shot when hit on the wrist like that. He didn't touch the ball and the ball landed 10 feet from the basket. I know Releford isn't the greatest shooter and we can certainly continue to whine about that but he was blatantly fouled there.

    Again none of this means that we are a great team or that we didn't screw up the game in other ways and blah blah. There is no reason that we can't whine about the call and whine about Grant and the way we managed the second half at the same.

    This post was edited by manbearpig7 on 3/16/2012 at 6:18 PM

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  • Pcbama, Tell me what I said that was so bad before you make jabs.

    P.S. I have other things I enjoy doing other than just posting on a bunch of threads. If you're not an insider then I think it's kinda pointless to have tons of posts.

    This post was edited by Jbstraiton on 3/16/2012 at 6:36 PM

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  • Theta Sigma said...

    Bullcrap. It's not a close call, it's an obvious one. It's not like he got ball and arm, he got all arm.

    Some of you guys have no clue. I've seen countless games where it's won at the free throw line. If it's an obvious call, it's made 90% of the time. ESPECIALLY on a big stage like this.

    So someone explain this to me: If our coach drew up a play that should have gotten our guy to the line only needing to make two out of three shots to win the game, exactly how did he "crap his pants"???

    Seriously.

    If the official calls the foul that everyone says should have been called, no one is complaining about Grant's TO. What if instead of a three it was a shot on the low post and the ref still swallows his whistle? Like it or not, Grant put the team in a position to win the game, if only the official does his job. The ref could have swallowed his whistle just as easily on a shot in the paint.

    airharper

  • airharper said...

    So someone explain this to me: If our coach drew up a play that should have gotten our guy to the line only needing to make two out of three shots to win the game, exactly how did he "crap his pants"???

    Seriously.

    If the official calls the foul that everyone says should have been called, no one is complaining about Grant's TO. What if instead of a three it was a shot on the low post and the ref still swallows his whistle? Like it or not, Grant put the team in a position to win the game, if only the official does his job. The ref could have swallowed his whistle just as easily on a shot in the paint.

    Dude, there's no way you believe that that's the shot they were looking for. At least I hope not. If so, we are 10x worse off than we think.

    Grant screwed the pooch. We almost got bailed out by a retarded play from the other team.

    Douché!

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  • bol14 said...

    Dude, there's no way you believe that that's the shot they were looking for. At least I hope not. If so, we are 10x worse off than we think.

    Grant screwed the pooch. We almost got bailed out by a retarded play from the other team.

    ^^^^ Never played a minute. That was a flagrant foul where the guy got no part of the ball.

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  • bamasandman81 said...

    ^^^^ Never played a minute. That was a flagrant foul where the guy got no part of the ball.

    Amen to that, brother. We've got some guys here who think that because they played a few minutes in high school, they know more than CAG. The critical factor at the end of this game was the fact that Creighton had a foul to give, yet one of these clueless fricks still yapped at CAG for failing to anticipate it, as if there was anything CAG could do about it.

    airharper

  • airharper said...

    Amen to that, brother. We've got some guys here who think that because they played a few minutes in high school, they know more than CAG. The critical factor at the end of this game was the fact that Creighton had a foul to give, yet one of these clueless fricks still yapped at CAG for failing to anticipate it, as if there was anything CAG could do about it.

    Ok. You actually believe the set was run to get Releford a quarter-court heave and draw a foul. That's fantastic.

    Douché!

    bol1484395

  • bamasandman81 said...

    ^^^^ Never played a minute. That was a flagrant foul where the guy got no part of the ball.

    This response is both inaccurate and completely irrelevant to the post it's addressed to. I'll assume you quoted the wrong guy.

    Douché!

    bol1484395

  • bol14 said...

    Ok. You actually believe the set was run to get Releford a quarter-court heave and draw a foul. That's fantastic.

    Didn't you die recently? Lot easier to arm chair QB than actually being the guy with the ball.

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  • bamasandman81 said...

    Didn't you die recently? Lot easier to arm chair QB than actually being the guy with the ball.

    1 - Are you of the opinion that Grant intended for Releford to take that shot?

    2 - Alabama's last possession looked like something out of the Les Miles Hall of Fame. That's something no one but you two seems to disagree with.

    Douché!

    bol1484395

  • bamasandman81 said...

    1- No
    2- Hoops is completley different than FB

    Though we shot shitty FT's and should have won, did TR get fouled?

    1 - ok you're better off than the other guy, at least.
    2 - the game and clock management was a disaster. That's the point.

    For the rest, try reading the thread.

    Douché!

    bol1484395