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Spencer Tillman (CBS) said…

  • Like others I appreciate your work, but seriously, you lost me when you eliminated the 2011 defense.

    You have to use more objective criteria when evaluating present and past teams/defenses. And you have to understand that more goes into winning and losing a game than the defense. If you want to use undefeated seasons as a way to judge the best TEAMS ever, fine, but not the best DEFENSES ever.

    Hey Baby

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    price66

  • 1961 team,25 points scored against is surreal.
    My Gosh,think about it!

    Fast Eddie2

  • J. Kirkpatrick said...

    I gave you a +1. But the only problem I had with your analysis is having to be undefeated under their belt. Last year's team gave up 9 points in their only loss. Essentially, I would say they did there job and should be included based on their merit. So you may want to consider expanding to if either a team lost 1 or 2 games.

    I agree. I thought last year's team was one of the best ever. Even after the loss I thought we were at a 10-14 pt better team than LSU and they were better than any other team by that amount or more.

    bamamba1989

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    Bama Illinois

  • Plus 1 for you. Nice work!

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  • paebert said...

    I think you should compare the scoring averages vs the rest of the country for the season in question and rank it as a % from there. For instance last year we gave up 8.2 points per game while the national average was 26.5 points per game, so we gave up 70% less points than the average NCAA team.

    In 1992 we gave up 9.1 points per game and I can't easily get the average but the mid point team gave up 22.5 points per game so we gave up 60% less points than the team ranked directly in the middle of the rankings, which will be pretty close to the average.

    So based on defensive scoring production the 2011 defense was better than the 1992 defense when compared to their peers.

    I think that's a good way to look at it but you should also include points scored and points scored off of turnovers in the analysis before you give the '11 defense the nod over 92 defense. There were lots of times in 92 when our best chance to score was when the other team had the ball. I will give you that '11 was harder to score on in a time when it was generally easier for offenses to score, but the 92 defense was so disruptive and game changing i think you have to take that into consideration.

    Redwoodforest

  • GSay001 said...

    I like spencer but pretty sure he wears guy-liner.

    Pure comedy!

    bobasspro

  • Redwoodforest said...

    I think that's a good way to look at it but you should also include points scored and points scored off of turnovers in the analysis before you give the '11 defense the nod over 92 defense. There were lots of times in 92 when our best chance to score was when the other team had the ball. I will give you that '11 was harder to score on in a time when it was generally easier for offenses to score, but the 92 defense was so disruptive and game changing i think you have to take that into consideration.

    I don't think you will find a way that paints the entire picture, should we take out the non-offensive touchdowns scored by Auburn, it lowers the PPG allowed by over a point, I think Kent State got the ball on the two and scored last year, that's worth another half of a point per game now you are under a touchdown per game.

    paebert

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    GoBama77

  • paebert said...

    I don't think you will find a way that paints the entire picture, should we take out the non-offensive touchdowns scored by Auburn, it lowers the PPG allowed by over a point, I think Kent State got the ball on the two and scored last year, that's worth another half of a point per game now you are under a touchdown per game.

    Maybe. Maybe you should also consider how few turnovers the 2011 offense had to put the defense in a bad position vs. the 92 offense. Or that the 92 defense caused 16 more turnovers than the 2011 defense. There's more to judging a defense than the points against stat.

    This post was edited by Redwoodforest on 9/20/2012 at 10:49 PM

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  • Mxylplyx said...

    I dont believe this defense will be as good as last year. I would love to be wrong, but I just dont see how it possibly could be. We have played ONE legit opponent so far. Arkansas was neutered before their game, and they also essentially gave up before half time, so I don't consider them a valid test. I think all this hype is building to a let down when our defense does get seriously tested. It reeks of the 2010 mindset, and I hope our players dont buy into it. They are still young and relatively inexperienced, and that will be exposed by one of our opponents this season. Fortunately I think our offense can more than keep up.

    Proceed with the down votes.

    No downvote here, but the team as a whole most definitely could be better.. Our offense is more efficient than it EVER has been in any single year. Im gona say it now.... and thats that if AjMac comes back for his 5th year, which i believ he will, then this program will do somthing that this modern era of football has nnever seen! mayb th history of Cfb has never seen what this program may do. call me crazy but i honestly believ this program will win th NC this year and may win it several years after that as long as we hava fairly smooth transition at th Qb position, especially with th talent we keep gettin there now....

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  • J. Kirkpatrick said...

    I gave you a +1. But the only problem I had with your analysis is having to be undefeated under their belt. Last year's team gave up 9 points in their only loss. Essentially, I would say they did there job and should be included based on their merit. So you may want to consider expanding to if either a team lost 1 or 2 games.

    This. Last years defense might be the best, top to bottom, I've ever saw....

    rrobertson