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lsu punt just too good or Maze made a mistake?

  • After the long punt flipped the field, I mentioned to my wife that Maze had to catch that punt and preserve field position. This fat dufis in the stands turned around and yelled at me that the punt was just too good and that no one could have caught it. (This dude is one of those bozos that thinks he knows everything and if anyone has a different opinion, he can't handle it.) Anyway, what do you think: was the punt too good or should Maze have been able to field it and preserve some decent field position?

    ProfessorAl

  • Maze was set up around Wing's average distance and Wing hit a low line drive punt with little hang time. Maze with a good ankle could have gotten under it but would have been a tough/risky punt to field either way. A muffed punt right there = game over. I had no problem with the way Maze played that one.

    With that said, Chris Jones should have been back there for that punt.

    BamaBowtie

  • Maze said it hit the guide wire and that changed the trajectory of the kick whichis why he didn't catch it.

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  • BamaBowtie said...

    Maze was set up around Wing's average distance and Wing hit a low line drive punt with little hang time. Maze with a good ankle could have gotten under it but would have been a tough/risky punt to field either way. A muffed punt right there = game over. I had no problem with the way Maze played that one.

    With that said, Chris Jones should have been back there for that punt.

    It looked to me that Maze could have made an over-the-shoulder-catch on it and without any assumptions of a great return could have at least set us up around the 30 or so. I thought he gave up on it too soon.

    ProfessorAl

  • ProfessorAl said...

    It looked to me that Maze could have made an over-the-shoulder-catch on it and without any assumptions of a great return could have at least set us up around the 30 or so. I thought he gave up on it too soon.

    I agree with you.

    I have to question WHY put #22 in there if you think Maze is hurt for punts BEFORE then, only to take him (#22) out when you really couldn't chance that maze wasn't 100%? That ankle was playing into what maze did, psychologically, whether he'll admit it or not (and he won't)...

    I don't like hearing the "guide wire" excuses. I didn't see it live, i didn't see it on the replay, and in any case, it was still a playable ball that should've been caught. As well, if it really did hit something and it made a significant change in trajectory, every coach on that field would've stopped the play...

    (edited for clarity)

    This post was edited by crimsonbleeder on 11/6/2011 at 11:26 AM

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  • crimsonbleeder said...

    I agree with you.

    I have to question WHY put #22 in there if you think Maze is hurt for punts BEFORE then, only to take him out when you really couldn't chance that maze wasn't 100%? That ankle was playing into what maze did, psychologically, whether he'll admit it or not (and he won't)...

    I don't like hearing the "guide wire" excuses. I didn't see it live, i didn't see it on the replay, and in any case, it was still a playable ball that should've been caught. As well, if it really did hit something and it made a significant change in trajectory, every coach on that field would've stopped the play...

    Well it's better to be safe than sorry. Christion Jones did a nice job fielding the punts, and its better having decent field position on a fair catch than being pinned behind the 15.

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  • josbur said...

    Well it's better to be safe than sorry. Christion Jones did a nice job fielding the punts, and its better having decent field position on a fair catch than being pinned behind the 15.

    yes, that was my point.

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  • josbur said...

    Well it's better to be safe than sorry. Christion Jones did a nice job fielding the punts, and its better having decent field position on a fair catch than being pinned behind the 15.

    Agreed. A healthy Maze makes that play. The problem is that he was not healthy and probably shouldn't have been in at that time. I am not a coach nor was I on the sideline. Just my humble opinion.

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  • it hit the video camera guide wire that crosses the field, been confirmed

    jmetz75

  • Ghost of Bryant said...

    Maze said it hit the guide wire and that changed the trajectory of the kick whichis why he didn't catch it.

    This.... Guys do none of you watch post game interviews or press conferences before you get on here making assumptions? No flame but it's out there and they explained it after the game

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  • crimsonbleeder said...

    I agree with you.

    I have to question WHY put #22 in there if you think Maze is hurt for punts BEFORE then, only to take him (#22) out when you really couldn't chance that maze wasn't 100%? That ankle was playing into what maze did, psychologically, whether he'll admit it or not (and he won't)...

    I don't like hearing the "guide wire" excuses. I didn't see it live, i didn't see it on the replay, and in any case, it was still a playable ball that should've been caught. As well, if it really did hit something and it made a significant change in trajectory, every coach on that field would've stopped the play...

    (edited for clarity)

    So...do you actually know the ground rules for a ball hitting the wire? Maybe the coaches actually do, which could be why there was no discussion on the field.

    airharper

  • crimsonbleeder said...

    I don't like hearing the "guide wire" excuses. I didn't see it live, i didn't see it on the replay, and in any case, it was still a playable ball that should've been caught. As well, if it really did hit something and it made a significant change in trajectory, every coach on that field would've stopped the play...

    (edited for clarity)

    I don't know, Crimson Bleeder...if a ref gets in the way of a play, they don't do anything about that...it seems like this would be the same type of situation.

    This post was edited by jgwbama on 11/6/2011 at 4:10 PM

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  • ALA13AMA said...

    This.... Guys do none of you watch post game interviews or press conferences before you get on here making assumptions? No flame but it's out there and they explained it after the game

    Well, I watched the game twice, and neither time did Maze make any indications that the guide wire was an issue. So I don't buy it and CBS said they can't see where it hit. He lost it in the lights and when he found it he tried to make a cut and couldn't. It was a situation where he shouldn't have been out there to begin with. A one legged return man is about as useful as a one legged man in an ass kicking competition. The bottom line about this play was that he never should have been asked to have been out there.

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  • rlb002 said...

    Well, I watched the game twice, and neither time did Maze make any indications that the guide wire was an issue. So I don't buy it and CBS said they can't see where it hit. He lost it in the lights and when he found it he tried to make a cut and couldn't. It was a situation where he shouldn't have been out there to begin with. A one legged return man is about as useful as a one legged man in an ass kicking competition. The bottom line about this play was that he never should have been asked to have been out there.

    You got it rlb.

    You'd think after the "Mark Barron Experience" from the *U game, 2010, our training staff and coaches would have learned this. Made no sense at all to me.

    And for all of you saying "it was confirmed"...I have seen no where that it was "confirmed" that the ball hit a wire. And if it did it certainly did NOT significantly change its trajectory.

    I love Maze...I love our coaches...I love this team. I'm just trying to get the facts straight here.

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  • I would think that if it did hit a wire or whatever, the punt would have gone much farther than 72 yards.

    Even the Gary mentioned that Christian Jones should have probably been out there with Maze's ankle in the condition it was in.

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  • You must have not watched the replay too closely because he pointed up and was talking to the ref. I saw it the first time through and was wondering what he was complaining about.

    THE_MESS

  • You want an experienced senior out there to field the punt. I have no problem with maze being out there the guy just boomed one it happens all the time and maybe it did hit the wire I dont honestly think thats something you would just make up

    Bamaboys12

  • We can nit pick this game for days but it boils down to missed opportunities. we outplayed them I mean we didnt even punt the whole first half and only had 3 to show for it. Just one of those games where nothing goes your way.

    Bamaboys12

  • Ghost of Bryant said...

    Maze said it hit the guide wire and that changed the trajectory of the kick whichis why he didn't catch it.

    The answer^^^^^^^^^^^^. Some of our fans are just plain dumb.

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  • Maze was healthy enough to be catching screen passes and running 25 yards with them, he was healthy enough to field that punt.

    ASBamaguy

  • Exactly!!!

    Bamaboys12

  • jmetz75 said...

    it hit the video camera guide wire that crosses the field, been confirmed

    Not doubting, but when and where was it confirmed?

    bamabiscuit1

  • THE_MESS said...

    You must have not watched the replay too closely because he pointed up and was talking to the ref. I saw it the first time through and was wondering what he was complaining about.

    He walked to the sidelines and if he was that worked up about it he sure didn't show it walking back. I think he thought it hit it, but I think he also lost it in the lights. Regardless the issue isn't that it did or didn't hit it, it was that he was out there. Jones gets back on the ball and makes the catch, Maze with the bad wheel couldn't. That simple.

    I keep reading it has been confirmed and a lot of the ball had a funky spin stuff, but I have yet to see a link to this "confirmation" and their punter puts funk on every punt and he drilled the stitches off that ball. I don't really see how he gets a 50 yard punt by air if he hits the wire and it changes its movement as much as folks say. Kinda goes against the laws of physics a bit.

    This post was edited by rlb002 on 11/6/2011 at 11:46 PM

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  • There are no excuses here. If you've ever played football you know that rule #1 is field the punt.

    TinyLund

  • crimsonbleeder said...

    You got it rlb.

    You'd think after the "Mark Barron Experience" from the *U game, 2010, our training staff and coaches would have learned this. Made no sense at all to me.

    And for all of you saying "it was confirmed"...I have seen no where that it was "confirmed" that the ball hit a wire. And if it did it certainly did NOT significantly change its trajectory.

    I love Maze...I love our coaches...I love this team. I'm just trying to get the facts straight here.

    With the depth and talent we have, there is no excuse for playing injured players. With that said, Maze should have made the catch...PERIOD. No excuses. It was a huge play and another special teams mistake.

    JLR76

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