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I'm sorry but I lol'd when I heard this
I don't know if I've ever seen a more canned apology. Kudos to the team lawyers for that fine job. The guy is obviously an uneducated bigot, probably raised that way by his parents. If he didn't have such a remarkable skill he'd be in a lot more trouble than he is. That said, why was he even asked about this?
They fined him? If you disagree with his comments and want to condemn them, I understand. But to fine him for his opinion goes too far.
They fined him for making comments they considered inappropriate. I think it was the way he said everything that got him in trouble. If he had just expressed that he disagreed with gay marriage or even thought being gay is a sin, he wouldn't have been fined. He has every right to his opinion, but his actions and what he says impact the team as hes a public figure.
"You've got some nerve coming here." T. Yorke
Good thing he is in San Fran where he doesn't have to deal with too many gay folks or this could get ugly ;-)
It really wouldn't have matter how he said it in today's society where the media plays a significant role in things of this nature. Why would anyone even ask a player a question like this any way. In today's society what's right is wrong and what's wrong is forced to be right by public trial. Do you really think people care about what's a sin and what's not, some do but most do not. That's the world we live in, where pets are loved more than humans because of ethnic groups or back grounds. The guy that asked the question should be fined too if the player has to pay out any money. Then maybe they will stop trying to stir the pot and create fire storms like this.
This post was edited by Wheeler1000 18 months ago
I firmly believe a LOT of NFL players, I dare say the majority, would agree with his original opinion....most of them though, arent at the Superbowl doing 2 million interviews and are smart enough if they were NOT to voice their real opinion because....well...this type of media s&*t storm happens.
It's sad that the reaction is always immediately condemn the guy for voicing his opinion, just to elicit the canned, "I dont really believe what I said" apology. Wouldnt society be better off if instead of condemning the guy and getting the [FAKE] apology, we instead initiated a "Why do you feel that way" discussion where people could openly air their views without fear of un-pc repricussions, and we could then maybe educate each other???
Now, that made me snort laugh. I haven't snort laughed in 10 years. +1
This post was edited by ianmccants 18 months ago
Anyone downplaying his homophobic and bigoted remarks should be ashamed of themselves.
You don't have to agree with it, but you certainly don't have to speak out against someone else's personal choices that have absolutely zero affect on you.
all respect--that's just it....he didn't call a news conference because he wanted to air his position. He did a radio interview and there's no way he saw that topic coming.........when asked, he foolishly (and it's sad that it's foolish) gave an honest answer. When you just scream "BIGOT!!!!" at him, he immediately just says "oh, I didnt mean it" (even though he did)............so then he keeps the same opinions, but doesnt air them publicly, and other players who share his opinion now just keep it quiet too, and there is no discussion, and there is no change.....
So we shouldn't call a bigot out for being a bigot? He's a big boy and can defend himself if necessary. If he truly believed what he was saying, then he wouldn't have apologized.
I must not be getting the full audio, what was he supposed to say yes I enjoy being hit on by gay men, and it was artie lang for goodness sakes trying to be comical. What did he say that was so offensive?
Homophobia is really 1993.
again all respect...I think you're 100 percent wrong. He apologized so that he doesn't get labeled the new Mel Gibson/John Rocker, doesn't get cut, to avoid larger NFL penalties, etc. etc. Also...he apologized because the 49ers told him to and likely drafted the apology. If not, they certainly approved it before he issued it. If you can't see that, well...I don't know what to tell you.
If that's the case then he lacks all principle and will do and say whatever "the man" tells him to do and say, just as long as he keeps getting that paycheck. Either way, I have no respect for the guy. If you're going to be a bigot, then be proud of your bigotry and defend yourself like a big boy.
He would have to apologize because of negative press the organization recieved. Some things people shouldn't say because it may not be the right time or proper setting. The one that hold his tongue is wise but the fools tongue gets him in trouble. I don'y believe the man is a bigot for saying what he said. I think the reporter should take some of the heat too. That wasn't the stage or time to ask that question. Some reports ask leading questions to lead responders down a path of no return. The guy was there to talk about football and get lead down the wrong path. The people that's calling this guy names are behind the scenes thinking the same thing. I'm not trying to judge right or wrong but this really should even get press.
Why do you think he lacks principles? Do you not do what your company tell you to do?
See...I think it's awfully conclusory to label the guy "bigot." He didnt say gay people shouldnt have rights, or are less than straight people, or whatever....he basically doesn't want to share a locker room with gay people. I imagine there are a lot of women who wouldnt want to share a locker room with straight men because they fear being looked upon, while disrobed, in a sexual manner....that's probably what this player feels. Now, that may not be an enlightened or educated view. But if you discuss it with him you might change his mind....just labeling him bigot doesn't accomplish anything.
Not about principle it is about what the man signing checks says you need to do. I bet you would apologize to if your boss paying you millions of dollars was to tell you to retract your statement. Any of us would. You can't go out there make your organization look silly and then just sit there and go I'm not apologizing off of principle. Cause then what might happen is the organization will apologize for you and may say see you later. Just like the guy who made the YouTube video at the chick fil a, and then got fired for his remarks and when he knew it would be tough sledding to find a job he said he was sorry. He might not be sorry and there are times all of us have said sorry just to appease someone. Sometimes sorry whether you mean it or not is the best thing to say.
Stalin had a rule: "You can say anything you want to in Russia. ONCE"
This post was edited by 442Bama 18 months ago
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Bigot- a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own. So if he says i don't want to be hit on or have to share locker room with gays and one calls him a bigot, does that make them a bigot as well. Unless I'm missing something I don't get what the fuss is about. What if the questiion had been "Street Bums any of them approach you here in NO" "nah dont do the bum thing man" " any bums on the team" " nah aint got no bums in here, if we do they gotta get up out of here".
I guess he should of said I don't know and if they are gay fine by me just not my thing of course. Did he cross the line when he said they gotta get up out of here?
Solid post. It's probably premature for me to label the guy as a bigot. And you're right, it was an unfair question to be asked in that kind of environment.
You're right. I shouldn't have called him a bigot. I think we can all agree that the best response would have been for him to just say "no comment" and move on from there
The gay community can't have it both ways. ( well shouldn't be able to any way). They wanna scream for their rights and freedom of belief and blah blah blah. They can march and rally and get on Oprah and Ellen and whatever else and voice their opinion. Why can't everyone else?. I understand that the 49ers and nfl r his employer, but damn come on. I'm just getn tired of the gays the foreigners the minorities and people who want what they want and don't want anyone else telling them that someone disagrees with them. This whole country is goin to a pile of shit because nobody besides those people can say how they feel. The normal American can't say how they feel or express there opinion anymore. I have no problem with gay people doin their thang, but for the love of god just do ur thing and STFU. Damn the society we live in. and I'm only 28, I can only imagine what it's gonna b like when I'm 45. Rant over roll f'n tide!!!!!
Of course he's right. There's no room for that in locker rooms. If it were acceptable a gay player would have come out by now. If anyone doesn't see a problem with it I don't know what to say. I guess if they had seperate showers and dressing areas it would be fine. But we don't mix men and woman in the same locker rooms in college so gay men dressing beside straight men is twice as bad as that.
But he was an idiot to say it. Everyone knows you can't tell the truth anymore if it hurts a minorities feelings. They are entitled to their rights and should never be discriminated against, but that doesn't mean everyone has to like it or agree with it, or jump in the shower and change in the locker room with people of a different sexual orientation. Men and woman don't use the same locker rooms.
This post was edited by samdog91 18 months ago
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