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Only because it's not the social norm for men and women to dress and undress together. It doesn't make it universally wrong to do so.
I believe your sexuality should not define your character or worth as a human being. It should remain in the privacy of the bedroom and stay there ! Mr Culliver is entitled to his opinion, but he is representing not only himself ,but his organization in this instance, so he must be careful with his comments !
" I understand that the 49ers and nfl r his employer..." It doesn't seem that you do. He's not being deprived of any rights by the government. Is Nick Saban infringing on the rights of his freshmen when he bans them from talking to the media?
"I'm just getn tired of the gays the foreigners the minorities and people who want what they want and don't want anyone else telling them that someone disagrees with them. This whole country is goin to a pile of shit because nobody besides those people can say how they feel." All those people want is equality, so it's probably tough for them when someone thinks otherwise.
And what is a "normal American"?
"I have no problem with gay people doin their thang, but for the love of god just do ur thing and STFU." They will, as soon as they have equal rights.
"Sorry it took me so long to answer. I was just thinking about how weird it is that we eat birds." - Tracy Jordan
I'm an employment lawyer. Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic in California (though not in most states or federally), which means that you can have whatever private opinions you want about it, but in California you can't make employment decisions based off it. (You also can't make housing or other types of decisions based on it.) The problem with Culliver's statement is that he didn't say - "I think it's immoral, I don't believe in gay marriage, etc." - he said they did not belong on the team and any gay person on the team should leave. If the team did not denounce his statements immediately, they could be seen as concurring with them and that could be used against them in employment litigation. Agree with it, don't agree with it, whatever, but that is the business situation in California and if a guy is going to live and work there, he needs to understand it or he is going to land in hot water.
You don't have to be an offensive asshole to talk about this issue, my friend.
Please mind the homophobic slurs.
What ticks me off is that homos hijacked the word 'gay' decades ago, thus basically ruining the ORIGINAL meaning of the word. How can anyone use that word in its original meaning/context, without the thought of homos coming to mind?
FLAME away... Pun INTENDED!
This post was edited by Allen Tide 18 months ago
He didn't have a good home life. Not justifying what he said but it does make a difference
There is a way to say something and a way not too. If you feel being gay is a sin so be. However Christians are commanded to love and speak in love. I'm not Christian and rhing being gay is ok but you don't have to be an idiot
Most discriminated group in America is the conservative American Christian. Tolerance has been voided for acceptance. The fact that I may have a fundamental disagreement with a lifestyle doesn't make me a bigot or intolerant, just unembracing. The American media are intolerant of and generally seek to vilify any who express socially unembracing views. Our freedom of speech is rapidly becoming a farce. And I'm not referring to those conducting hate speech.
Never Gets Old
I wonder how some of you guys handle going go a gym (Golds, etc). Im guessing odds are good that there may be some of "them" in there too.
Examples of the discrimination that you're referring to?
And I don't see how this has anything to do with freedom of speech. This guy was fined by his employer, not by the government.
I'll take 1993 back when people still had freedom of speech and didn't have to be personally attacked and called a bigot and homophone just because they disagreed with a lifestyle. No longer having freedom of speech and calling people homophobes just because someone has a different opinion than you is so 2013. I'll take 1993.
lol yeah, you're so persecuted in society as a straight white male because there's no slur word off limits against you.
This post was edited by SweetHomeNYC 18 months ago
Is Culliver being prosecuted for what he said? Is the government telling him he can't say it? NO. So freedom of speech is alive and well.
Does that mean people have a right to say whatever's on their mind free from any consequences (i.e., that their PRIVATE employer might reprimand them? Or that society might think they're an idiot and behind the times)? NO.
People toss around the term "freedom of speech" without having any clue what the state action requirement in the Constitution is. Culliver can say whatever he wants, but it doesn't make him any less liable to his employer or any less of an idiot.
Hmmmm.. Never heard of a "straight only gym". I need to look that up in the Yellow Pages. Because I'm so ridiculously handsome, I'm tired of all those guys gawking at me at my current gym.
Thanks for the tip (no homo)
You are correct about Christians being commanded to love and speak in love. But it means to love people not sin. We are commanded to hate sin. Having love for people doesnt mean loving and accepting a lifestyle the Bible calls sin.
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