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Just a thought

  • tide10

    Could the info about "the biggest scandal in the history in college football" have been about Miami and not awbarn. Think about it. Our insiders were getting info about the yahoo story, south Florida investigation, August boom...all of that happened but it wasn't about awbarn rather Miami. All the info they've said about awbarn is the exact thing that happened to Miami. Maybe their sources were hearing this was all going to come out and assumed it was about awbarn. Just a thought.

  • phlux

    tide10 said... (original post)

    Could the info about "the biggest scandal in the history in college football" have been about Miami and not awbarn. Think about it. Our insiders were getting info about the yahoo story, south Florida investigation, August boom...all of that happened but it wasn't about awbarn rather Miami. All the info they've said about awbarn is the exact thing that happened to Miami. Maybe their sources were hearing this was all going to come out and assumed it was about awbarn. Just a thought.

    I have thought this exact situation all day long.

  • I do not have any sources, but I believe you are 100 % accurate.

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  • Could certainly be a case of someone seeing what they wanted to see. They got an incomplete picture and filled in the blanks with what they were looking for, not what was really there.

  • RMFT

    ditto. it makes it hard to be pissed they were off on a minor detail..

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  • no, barn info in 2 weeks

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  • tide10

    buddy888 said... (original post)

    no, barn info in 2 weeks

    book it, take it to the bank, write it down, lock,count on it

  • yea, I'm sure you are right. Auburn has no history of cheating. There has never been any talk of them paying players or using hookers to lure recruits. Shapiro sounds a lot like Lowder too. Auburn is a good Fambly, a good wholesome Fambly with fine Christian men like trooper Taylor. Good point, +1

  • tide10

    DavidPhares said... (original post)

    yea, I'm sure you are right. Auburn has no history of cheating. There has never been any talk of them paying players or using hookers to lure recruits. Shapiro sounds a lot like Lowder too. Auburn is a good Fambly, a good wholesome Fambly with fine Christian men like trooper Taylor. Good point, +1

    "Talk of using hookers to lure players...sounds like lowder...a good wholesome Famblywith fine Christian men like trooper".

    Tell me where is the only place you've gotten your info on that...BOL and its been from the same ones that said the Bingo trial will reveal P4P, yahoo article on awbarn, august boom, Dyer is out...I'm not saying awbarn hasn't done something wrong but until we get some facts about all these allegations we sound no better than the bunker..."Rec pays players, we paid CK & BC parents to steer them here, Saban is corrupt....

  • tide10 said... (original post)

    "Talk of using hookers to lure players...sounds like lowder...a good wholesome Famblywith fine Christian men like trooper".

    Tell me where is the only place you've gotten your info on that...BOL and its been from the same ones that said the Bingo trial will reveal P4P, yahoo article on awbarn, august boom, Dyer is out...I'm not saying awbarn hasn't done something wrong but until we get some facts about all these allegations we sound no better than the bunker..."Rec pays players, we paid CK & BC parents to steer them here, Saban is corrupt....

    No offense, my friend, but the CK situation is true. Did you not see his initial announcement with the Barn. I remember what went down in Auburn that weekend. All of this information you have read on BOL is not incorrect. Don't let your disdain for the so called insiders effect your judgment. TT is a thug. How in the hell do you think they keep pulling in these recruiting classes, off Chizniks charm?

  • tide10

    DavidPhares said... (original post)

    No offense, my friend, but the CK situation is true. Did you not see his initial announcement with the Barn. I remember what went down in Auburn that weekend. All of this information you have read on BOL is not incorrect. Don't let your disdain for the so called insiders effect your judgment. TT is a thug. How in the hell do you think they keep pulling in these recruiting classes, off Chizniks charm?

    I know it may not seem like it but I don't have any problem with a lot of our insiders. At what point though, do we change our mindset that maybe they don't bring accurate info? Just because it sounds good and makes our bitter rival look bad doesn't make it true. They have been wrong on multiple occasions just this month and it wouldn't surprise me that their sources assumed everything they were hearing was on awbarn...try and go back over the past few months and think about everything they told us...sounds exactly what is coming out about Miami.

    As for CK how do you know for a fact that something "went down in awbarn that weekend"? What about his "initial announcement to awbarn" makes you conclude that "trooper used strippers to intice CK to sign". Look I'm not saying it didn't happen but for me, I going to need more verification than posters on a BAMA message board...that have missed in a major way just recently.

    Again I hope awbarn gets the death penalty and nothing less but looking at this situation objectively and unbiased do I think that will happen? Not even close.

  • tide10 said... (original post)

    I know it may not seem like it but I don't have any problem with a lot of our insiders. At what point though, do we change our mindset that maybe they don't bring accurate info? Just because it sounds good and makes our bitter rival look bad doesn't make it true. They have been wrong on multiple occasions just this month and it wouldn't surprise me that their sources assumed everything they were hearing was on awbarn...try and go back over the past few months and think about everything they told us...sounds exactly what is coming out about Miami.

    As for CK how do you know for a fact that something "went down in awbarn that weekend"? What about his "initial announcement to awbarn" makes you conclude that "trooper used strippers to intice CK to sign". Look I'm not saying it didn't happen but for me, I going to need more verification than posters on a BAMA message board...that have missed in a major way just recently.

    Again I hope awbarn gets the death penalty and nothing less but looking at this situation objectively and unbiased do I think that will happen? Not even close.

    What makes me believe the CK info is accurate is mainly a comment Finebaum made to Joe from Trussville one day, when he point blank asked him about TT using prostitutes. I could tell when he said it, he believed it. I also felt he knew he had messed up when he said it. I know many think FB is a clown, but I have followed him for years, and feel otherwise. He has access to a lot of information and he is smart enough to determine what is true and what is not.
    Then, you have CKs announcement for the Barn. He looked like a child being lured by a Fambly, not his family. Contrast that with the joy expressed upon his signing with us. Then I remember the stripper party being advertised the week he was visiting and the pictures that ensued. Its just common sense. Trooper Taylor is a thug. There are no ifs, ands or buts about it.

  • tide10

    DavidPhares said... (original post)

    What makes me believe the CK info is accurate is mainly a comment Finebaum made to Joe from Trussville one day, when he point blank asked him about TT using prostitutes. I could tell when he said it, he believed it. I also felt he knew he had messed up when he said it. I know many think FB is a clown, but I have followed him for years, and feel otherwise. He has access to a lot of information and he is smart enough to determine what is true and what is not.
    Then, you have CKs announcement for the Barn. He looked like a child being lured by a Fambly, not his family. Contrast that with the joy expressed upon his signing with us. Then I remember the stripper party being advertised the week he was visiting and the pictures that ensued. Its just common sense. Trooper Taylor is a thug. There are no ifs, ands or buts about it.

    Thanks for being honest but I don't even know where to begin that your info came from Finebaum and a caller....hook line and sinker maybe?

  • I don't have any inside info, but I've been reading FB For years and usually know what he's going to do before he does it. Didn't CKs coach, who was pushing him to the Barn, abruptly resign? Why did he want CK at Awbren so bad.

    Btw , I knew exactly what was going to happen on FB yesterday. Sheridan knew who the bagman was 3 weeks ago. I think he was prompted to get the info out by his contact. Then, it bit him in the ass

  • tide10

    DavidPhares said... (original post)

    I don't have any inside info, but I've been reading FB For years and usually know what he's going to do before he does it. Didn't CKs coach, who was pushing him to the Barn, abruptly resign? Why did he want CK at Awbren so bad.

    Btw , I knew exactly what was going to happen on FB yesterday. Sheridan knew who the bagman was 3 weeks ago. I think he was prompted to get the info out by his contact. Then, it bit him in the ass

    I'll say this. I hope you're right about awbarns involvement in CKs recruitment and they get hammered for it. Appreciate the civil conversation.

  • tide10

    Alright Mr Finebaum reader. What do you take form his comments when he said "the NCAA has not sent awbarn a letter of investigation and obviously doesn't have a case on Cam Newton"

  • tide10 said... (original post)

    Could the info about "the biggest scandal in the history in college football" have been about Miami and not awbarn. Think about it. Our insiders were getting info about the yahoo story, south Florida investigation, August boom...all of that happened but it wasn't about awbarn rather Miami. All the info they've said about awbarn is the exact thing that happened to Miami. Maybe their sources were hearing this was all going to come out and assumed it was about awbarn. Just a thought.

    No. It is not possible. The "insiders" were wrong. WAAY wrong. They may still be proven right at some point (I think we can all agree we hope they are), but the only thing proven is that they are not as "inside" as they think they are.

    "Insiders" who have legit sources don't get info from those sources that is so ambiguous that you can assign that info to a school (AU) who isn't even in the same state or conference as the school the info would have been about (UM). Our "insiders" were reading tea leaves and misread them horribly, or so it would appear.

    When you have a legit source you get info like:
    * Trooper Taylor arrange for Julian Cazanas, JR to receive payment of between $15-20K in order to steer Therezie to AU.
    * Trooper Taylor regularly fell asleep in coaching meetings at OSU and was on the verge of being let go when he got the AU job. When he asked Gundy for permission to interview he was told by Gundy, "sure. Just make sure you get a one way ticket".

    Specific information is the key to understanding if a source is legit. If a guy is speaking in generalities (coming soon, multiple media outlets, sack race, etc) then they are likely not as plugged in as they'd like you to believe.

    I apologize for the rant, but the excuse making for some of the "insiders" on this site is ridiculous. It is time for the "insiders" to put up or shut up.

    Let's get to the football season & win #14! Roll Tide forever!

    This post was edited by BeastlyTide 3 years ago

    That's what's pasa!

  • tide10 said... (original post)

    Alright Mr Finebaum reader. What do you take form his comments when he said "the NCAA has not sent awbarn a letter of investigation and obviously doesn't have a case on Cam Newton"

    I didn't hear him say that. But, if he did he was being a smart ass to one of the. dumbass barners who still profess Awbren is not under investigation. He's said about 20 times the last 2 days that DS verified, that the Barn is being investigated on Cam and other things.
    To my knowledge, Awbren has not received a NOA

  • David, you have proven his point. You say that you know "for a fact" that something happened in CK recruitment and then validate your claim by what you "felt" while reading into a FB statement? In order for this to be a fact you would need to have direct knowledge of the situation.

    I'm afraid this interpretation of facts is how the insiders pulled all of us along for months. I'm not saying that some posters don't run across information from time to time that the average fan does not have access to, but when you see posters that seem to have an answers to every question it doesn't add up. I think that most of them mixed a little inside info with their own gut feelings. Some didn’t bring anything at all but childish humor and were praised like they were a prophet. Heck, insiders came out of nowhere the last few months and the ones that dared to question them got labeled barners. Where are all of the insiders now?

    I think TT is a thug and au is dirty as all get out, but just because I "THINK" that does not make it a fact.

  • HARDCORE413 said... (original post)

    David, you have proven his point. You say that you know "for a fact" that something happened in CK recruitment and then validate your claim by what you "felt" while reading into a FB statement? In order for this to be a fact you would need to have direct knowledge of the situation.

    I'm afraid this interpretation of facts is how the insiders pulled all of us along for months. I'm not saying that some posters don't run across information from time to time that the average fan does not have access to, but when you see posters that seem to have an answers to every question it doesn't add up. I think that most of them mixed a little inside info with their own gut feelings. Some didn’t bring anything at all but childish humor and were praised like they were a prophet. Heck, insiders came out of nowhere the last few months and the ones that dared to question them got labeled barners. Where are all of the insiders now?

    I think TT is a thug and au is dirty as all get out, but just because I "THINK" that does not make it a fact.

    I'm just saying don't discount everything you hear because you don't like the source. My common sense tells me the CK story is true, because of the way things played out. Awbren has shown a pattern of isolating the kids from their parents. Hell, if I'm 18 and I get the choice between the army (a disciplined environment with Saban in charge) or a spring break (Barn), I'm going to chose the party. There is a reason why Awbren is pulling in these stellar recruiting classes. My Dad always told me if auburn is winning, Awbren is cheating. Chiznik's charisma is non existent.
    I don't believe all of that shit posted by the insiders, but i don't discount it all either. they have been cheating for years. look at what TB said about them. He knew because he lived it. A lot of it is my gut, but a lot of it is common sense and experience too. Just like Finebaum, who many ignore. He knows a lot. Listen to his constant praise of Chiznik, but derogatory slights he makes against trooper and Luper. Why did the coaches vote spurrier coach of the year over Chiznik, who beat him twice. They recruit against that scum, that's why. it's not just cam Newton. I'm just saying give it some time to play out. in the meantime, we can shoot for #14.

  • tide10

    HARDCORE413 said... (original post)

    David, you have proven his point. You say that you know "for a fact" that something happened in CK recruitment and then validate your claim by what you "felt" while reading into a FB statement? In order for this to be a fact you would need to have direct knowledge of the situation.

    I'm afraid this interpretation of facts is how the insiders pulled all of us along for months. I'm not saying that some posters don't run across information from time to time that the average fan does not have access to, but when you see posters that seem to have an answers to every question it doesn't add up. I think that most of them mixed a little inside info with their own gut feelings. Some didn’t bring anything at all but childish humor and were praised like they were a prophet. Heck, insiders came out of nowhere the last few months and the ones that dared to question them got labeled barners. Where are all of the insiders now?

    I think TT is a thug and au is dirty as all get out, but just because I "THINK" that does not make it a fact.

    Great post. Nothing against David put that is a prime example of hearing what you want to hear...anytime Finebaum says something may happen to awbarn it's fact, when he states (as he has numorous times) that nothing will come of the Cam stuff, it's "he just joking".

  • tide10 said... (original post)

    Great post. Nothing against David put that is a prime example of hearing what you want to hear...anytime Finebaum says something may happen to awbarn it's fact, when he states (as he has numorous times) that nothing will come of the Cam stuff, it's "he just joking".

    He hasn't been that way since the NYT article. i personally don't think they will pin Cam on them because no one will talk. But there is something to the other stuff. I have been guilty, though, of hearing what I want to hear to that effect, I will admit that. For a living, I make observations and then suspicions over what somebody does and why they do it. I'm fairly good at it, but could be wrong.