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Ask your questions. Some may not be an electrician but have your answer. Better do it quick before it gets moved to cooler.
fair enough. my mom lives in an older house and the circuit breaker isnt set up like mine. Her new heater that was "donated" to her is too big and is flipping the breaker. Its currently on a 40 (bottom right in the picture) clearly it needs to be larger, but her board is full and I cant install anything larger in there. What to do?
Let me run this by my friend/electrician. Thanks for the pic. I will PM you
I appreciate it. I'm handy... but really have no experience with electrical systems.
You have to upgrade your service and feed the larger service into a bigger panel. Your requiring more power than your present panel can handle.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BamaTaint 16 months ago
Cut the red wire....I repeat the red wire...Copy???
so a larger panel. like the one pictured... but what does upgrading service mean? wiring?
This post was edited by IcanBEATali 16 months ago
hey man easiest thing to do would probably be to go to lowes or home depot and get u a breaker rated for what u need and u can buy a new small breaker box just for that breaker...mount the new box next to the one u got and re-route ur wires
This post was edited by dhallmark 16 months ago
And here is the next board to be added to the BOL family of boards....
The Home Improvement Lowedown/Depot Board.....
Yes, a larger breaker box that will allow you to put a bigger/larger breaker in it. Either way you are looking at a job. You could do what is already mentioned. Get a smaller breaker box for the breaker operating the heater indepentley. That will requiring you to reroute the wiring from the old box to the new and depending on how much wire there is could be a chore. I would suggest a replacing the breaker box with a bigger one that will support what you need. Have you checked the heater to see what size it needs?
Are you sure that the breaker is to small or theres not something wrong with the heater. I would have the heater checked out unless your confident its good and the breaker is good and just to small. It would suck to do all that wiring and it be something wrong with the heater.
Most heaters are run off a 60A breaker. It depends on the KW. Next question would be, what kind of service does she currently have? 100A or 200A? Alot of older homes are still on a 100A service. If that is the case, you need a service upgrade. Did she have central heat before? Or was she on gas?
This post was edited by BuriedAlive14 16 months ago
Nope, not there. Just assumed he already new the heater was good. Could be a multiple of things. I was just answering the the breaker situation. I assummed he already traced it to that part.
Sorry, I didn't mean to quote your post. I'm still getting the hang of this new phone.
Could be several things. Bad or undersized breaker. Problem with heater internally. If it is new then prob not the heater. I notice there was no main breaker so I'm gonna say you are not overloading the panel or you would have to to outside to where the meter is to reset it. Need to see how many amps the heater is to see if the breaker too small. It may only have watts then you would need too convert to amps.
Trust me. Pay an electrician to look at it. If you are strapped for cash, tell him your budget. If you find an electrician you can trust then he will find a way to help you out but I wouldn't do it without paying an expert opinion. Been there, didn't do that.... Cost me a lot more in the long run!
You just can't put a larger breaker in there.You have to have the size wire for whatever size breaker that you are using.If you have a 40 amp breaker,the wire should be #8.If you need a 60 amp breaker you will have to replace the #4 wire with a #6 wire.Check the amps on the heater and go from there.
I am an electrician. First u need to know what the heater will pull(amps). If u only know watts current = watts/voltage. If the current is more than the breaker, DO NOT UP-SIZE BREAKER unless u know the wire size will carry the current of the heater. Do check connections on breaker(with breaker off) and on the receptacle (plug) in the wall. Just up-sizing breakers will burn down houses, trust me, I've seen it. Breakers don't generally go bad, they definitely don't get "weak". If a breaker goes bad, it won't turn on, or will not reset.
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The heater has a max listed of a 60A. The service itself is apparently 125A. The heater should be fine as it's new. Not to show how little I know about breakers, but I didn't realize you could only use certain types in different boxes. I think I found a 60A online that would work in the current space in place of the 40A breaker. I don't know this for sure though. Is a single pole 60A that is supposedly the correct type of breaker for the box. Even having to special order the part, I may try that first seeing as how other options all seem to be pretty in depth or expensive.
What I'm curious about now is the wiring. If I plug in a 60A breaker.... Are the wires going to support it? How do I figure that out?
Thanks for the help guys. I've had to invite my mom to come stay in my first room on a couple of cold nights in the last month because I don't like her depending on floor heaters. I would like to fix it for her for obvious reasons.
1984 300ZX Anniversary Model, 1970 Olds 442 W-30 & Pepper Bird
The minimum on the heater asked for something larger than 40A, so I know it needs to be larger. I'm at home now so I can't check on the other things. Old houses suck.
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