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Question re: "sidewalk fans"

  • I understand that terminology describes fans who did not attend the university of their liking (UA or AU)..
    But does include both fans who did not have the opportunity to attend college at all, AND those who chose to attend other universities?

    I ask because the term "sidewalk fans" is often used when discussing fans that are the culprits of acting in a manner that embarrass or otherwise not well representative of the University.
    But I know we have fans who for whatever reason chose to attend institutions such as Ivy League schools, top ACC schools (UNC, Duke, UVa, etc) among others.
    Are they "sidewalk fans"?

    Not trying to start a "sidewalk fan" debate - just curious how all encompassing the definition is.

    And for the record, I know MANY people who did not attend college who are as equally (if not more) "classy" than their college-educated peers. That's not the point here either.

  • scottchap

    I don't think the phrase is that well thought out especially since I think it was created by Aubs to make themselves feel better about the fact that the majority of people in the state don't like them.

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    scottchap said... (original post)

    I don't think the phrase is that well thought out especially since I think it was created by Aubs to make themselves feel better about the fact that the majority of people in the state don't like them.

    I mentioned this term in the other thread. I'm someone who attended another university but am also a huge Bama fan. Although I'm different than someone who didn't attend college at all and roots for a team, I've always heard the term "sidewalk fans" used as an umbrella to put over ANYONE who didn't attend the school they're rooting for.

    To me you're right though, there is obviously a clear separation within that group between classy fans and the ones you see tea bagging folks at Krystal and poisoning trees.......maybe there are different terms used to distinguish I just haven't heard of yet, or maybe I just shouldn't care about it to begin with.

    This isn't just an Alabama/Auburn thing though, that term is used everywhere.

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  • One thing to remember. The guy who did the "teabagging" might actually be a current or former student of UA (although I hope not). A college education does not mean one has class.

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  • Jawa3hc said... (original post)

    I mentioned this term in the other thread. I'm someone who attended another university but am also a huge Bama fan. Although I'm different than someone who didn't attend college at all and roots for a team, I've always heard the term "sidewalk fans" used as an umbrella to put over ANYONE who didn't attend the school they're rooting for.

    To me you're right though, there is obviously a clear separation within that group between classy fans and the ones you see tea bagging folks at Krystal and poisoning trees.......maybe there are different terms used to distinguish I just haven't heard of yet, or maybe I just shouldn't care about it to begin with.

    This isn't just an Alabama/Auburn thing though, that term is used everywhere.

    Definitely.
    The stereotypical inference made on message boards, radio, etc. is that anyone who didn't attend UA, did not attend college at all..

    Whereas, in reality, I know MANY people who are UA fans who for whatever reason went out of state and attended some of the finer institutions in the United States (both private and public). But they remain avid UA fans.

    The debate about "class" and attending college is a whole other debate.
    I just find it interesting that the assumption is that if you are a Bama fan, you either: (a) Went to UA, or (b) did not attend college at all.

  • I'm annoyed by people who choose to go to other schools, brag about said schools constantly and how smart they are for going there, yet show up on Saturdays in Tuscaloosa decked in Alabama gear. They usually went to Samford or Bham Southern. I'm not angry. I don't dislike them. I'm glad they show support. However, I just find them a little annoying. In other words, if you clearly had the money and grades to go to Alabama but chose to go somewhere else that's fine, but I don't regard us as having a similar connection to UA. I view my connection as superior, but there's no real way to express that without being a dick so I don't.

    As for people who did not go to college, I really don't care. Everyone is either normal and classy or Whiskey Tango whether they went to college or not. If they're Whiskey Tango, they seem to embarrass the successful schools during great runs.

  • Jawa3hc said... (original post)

    I mentioned this term in the other thread. I'm someone who attended another university but am also a huge Bama fan. Although I'm different than someone who didn't attend college at all and roots for a team, I've always heard the term "sidewalk fans" used as an umbrella to put over ANYONE who didn't attend the school they're rooting for.

    To me you're right though, there is obviously a clear separation within that group between classy fans and the ones you see tea bagging folks at Krystal and poisoning trees.......maybe there are different terms used to distinguish I just haven't heard of yet, or maybe I just shouldn't care about it to begin with.

    This isn't just an Alabama/Auburn thing though, that term is used everywhere.

    The term that I have heard to distinguish between the 2 is " dirt road alumni".

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  • I'm probably one of the few true "sidewalk alumns" out there. I never went to UA. I attended a local JUCO and then joined an apprenticeship program. However I could stand on the "sidewalk" in front of my parent's house on Saturday and hear the roar of the crowd when Bama had a big play. I've been called it before and it doesn't bother me.

    "Quit trying to make a play and do your job!"

  • I always thought sidewalk fans were "fans" who always try to talk trash and be arrogant, but can't name more than 5 players on the team except for "Mount Cody!!" and wear Walmart Alabama jerseys.

    They also don't fork out the money to actually go to games..they just go to A-day..where they also never went until Saban was hired.

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  • By definition I'm a sidewalk fan. I actually had my schedule, scholarships, housing, etc. in order to start my freshman year at the University of Alabama and within a month before school started I decided to go to Troy. Basically, I chickened out and wanted to stay closer to home (only 45 minutes away) and my then girlfriend. It didn't hurt that when I called Troy they offered full paid everything to the point that I made money going to school. On the other hand, I am a diehard Alabama fan and always wonder what could've been. As far as Troy goes, I couldn't care less if they never won a game and the whole university ceased to exist. Obviously, they've rubbed me the wrong way on many occasions.
    gunTroy bowAlabama

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  • whoaaanelly said... (original post)

    I'm annoyed by people who choose to go to other schools, brag about said schools constantly and how smart they are for going there, yet show up on Saturdays in Tuscaloosa decked in Alabama gear. They usually went to Samford or Bham Southern. I'm not angry. I don't dislike them. I'm glad they show support. However, I just find them a little annoying. In other words, if you clearly had the money and grades to go to Alabama but chose to go somewhere else that's fine, but I don't regard us as having a similar connection to UA. I view my connection as superior, but there's no real way to express that without being a dick so I don't.

    As for people who did not go to college, I really don't care. Everyone is either normal and classy or Whiskey Tango whether they went to college or not. If they're Whiskey Tango, they seem to embarrass the successful schools during great runs.

    for the record, I am a non-alum of UA.
    My parents insisted that I go elsewhere (for a variety of false, and frankly humorous, incorrect assumptions that they made).

    And I will readily admit that the bond that alumni of UA have is much greater than I have. I have been an avid Bama fan for as long as I can remember back in my 36 years of life, but I also recognize that the bond, memories and experiences that alumni who spent 4-6 years (G) of their life on campus, going to class, parties, greek life, and other extracurricular activities are greatly >>>> than my athletics only fandom.

    I spent 3 years living down there as the spouse of a grad student, so I got a taste of those experiences, but it's not the same.

    And if it makes you feel better, deep down I think most non-alumni will admit that your experience as a student is a more broad and deep experience with the University as a whole.

    But don't let it get to you. I think we "sidewalk fans" may be overly zealous with our fandom in a subconscious effort to compensate for that lack of student experience. Don't begrudge it. It's harmless, IMO

  • whoaaanelly said... (original post)

    I'm annoyed by people who choose to go to other schools, brag about said schools constantly and how smart they are for going there, yet show up on Saturdays in Tuscaloosa decked in Alabama gear. They usually went to Samford or Bham Southern. I'm not angry. I don't dislike them. I'm glad they show support. However, I just find them a little annoying. In other words, if you clearly had the money and grades to go to Alabama but chose to go somewhere else that's fine, but I don't regard us as having a similar connection to UA. I view my connection as superior, but there's no real way to express that without being a dick so I don't.

    As for people who did not go to college, I really don't care. Everyone is either normal and classy or Whiskey Tango whether they went to college or not. If they're Whiskey Tango, they seem to embarrass the successful schools during great runs.

    Bold. Disagree somewhat, but to each his own I suppose (and FTR I attended UA as well).

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  • I am a JSU Graduate and Gamecock fan and supporter as well as being a Bama fan and supporter. While in school at JSU I would support my team by attending all of their home games and some drivable away games, but I always had an ear plug from my pocket radio listening to Bama if our games were going on at the same time as did many of the other students...UA and AU do and always have had their fans regardless of attending or of not attending either school. In my opinion a fan is a fan regardless of college attended and the same for donators. But I will say this my term for fans who went to one school and then turn the back on the school they graduated from and root and support another school, are classified as Grayhound alumnus (folks who bused down, drove, or begged rides to one of the big schools on the weekend....

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  • swimbikerun247 said... (original post)

    By definition I'm a sidewalk fan. I actually had my schedule, scholarships, housing, etc. in order to start my freshman year at the University of Alabama and within a month before school started I decided to go to Troy. Basically, I chickened out and wanted to stay closer to home (only 45 minutes away) and my then girlfriend. It didn't hurt that when I called Troy they offered full paid everything to the point that I made money going to school. On the other hand, I am a diehard Alabama fan and always wonder what could've been. As far as Troy goes, I couldn't care less if they never won a game and the whole university ceased to exist. Obviously, they've rubbed me the wrong way on many occasions.
    gunTroy bowAlabama

    Haha my story is almost identical to yours. I ended up at AUM (it sucks), for reasons I don't want to talk about on a message board. I'm from Montgomery so it ended up working out financially.

  • whoaaanelly said... (original post)

    I'm annoyed by people who choose to go to other schools, brag about said schools constantly and how smart they are for going there, yet show up on Saturdays in Tuscaloosa decked in Alabama gear. They usually went to Samford or Bham Southern. I'm not angry. I don't dislike them. I'm glad they show support. However, I just find them a little annoying. In other words, if you clearly had the money and grades to go to Alabama but chose to go somewhere else that's fine, but I don't regard us as having a similar connection to UA. I view my connection as superior, but there's no real way to express that without being a dick so I don't.

    As for people who did not go to college, I really don't care. Everyone is either normal and classy or Whiskey Tango whether they went to college or not. If they're Whiskey Tango, they seem to embarrass the successful schools during great runs.

    Well, you're talking to me I guess. I had the grades and the money to Attend UA, but chose instead to attend Samford. There were several reasons that at the time seemed appropriate, but frankly later on down the road turned out to be completely nebulous. In retrospect, I would have benefited as much if not more professionally by attending UA + I would have done so for a much lower tuition cost + I would have enjoyed all of the college life much more. Hindsight being 20/20 and all.

    However, I have never indicated to anyone, to my knowledge, that my education was superior because I attended Samford. Heck, I went there and frankly, that is a ludicrous stance. It has not helped me get a job nor has it prepared me for corporate America any better than my peers who have business degrees from state institutions.

    On a side note, I did meet my wife at Samford and that has worked out tremendously, so I guess I'll have to be content with being a "sidewalk fan." Either way, Roll Tide!!!!!!!!!!

  • I love being a sidewalk fan! One more point on my ACT and I would've had a full ride...sadly though, I made a 29 two cosecutive times. So, I had to stay in Louisiana and go to college for free basically thanks to the state's scholarship program (TOPS). Still repped Alabama fully while on campus at Southeastern Louisiana University (I refused to go to LSU, hate them with a passion). I haven't missed a Bama/LSU game in 10 years I think. Have also made it to at least one game in Tuscaloosa since 03 and went to both SEC Championships and both BCS Championships (I think the only bowl game I've missed since the 06 Indy Bowl was last year's Capital One Bowl) thanks to some smart financial planning due to all the money I saved by going to college in Louisiana. I don't own Walmart jersey's and have successfully either found a Bama girl to date or converted them to Bama fans....even though I'm surrounded by Corndogs. I do my part my friends and I wear the "sidewalk fan" badge with honor! biggrin

    I do agree with Bama_Lefty though, those of us who didn't get the chance to graduate from UA yet are huge fans...we feel like we have to overcompensate a little because those of you who did earn your degree there, you got to experience the dream we all had at some point in time.

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  • Jawa3hc said... (original post)

    I mentioned this term in the other thread. I'm someone who attended another university but am also a huge Bama fan. Although I'm different than someone who didn't attend college at all and roots for a team, I've always heard the term "sidewalk fans" used as an umbrella to put over ANYONE who didn't attend the school they're rooting for.

    To me you're right though, there is obviously a clear separation within that group between classy fans and the ones you see tea bagging folks at Krystal and poisoning trees.......maybe there are different terms used to distinguish I just haven't heard of yet, or maybe I just shouldn't care about it to begin with.

    This isn't just an Alabama/Auburn thing though, that term is used everywhere.

    I understand what you are saying but this could really come accross as offensive
    to some . Some of the best writers on this site did not go to UA. Finebaum went to
    Tennessee . You can't really hit on the fans when many writers are " sidewalk fans "
    as well , but I do get your point .

    Out of curiosity I wonder if the mods would say where they went to school . Btw. I am
    aware that everyone hates Finebaum and he does not write for this site .

  • Sidewalk fans are great...We are ALABAMA Football....we take all fans if they say, ROLL TIDE!!!! That is what make us the best program,,,RTR!!!