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I watched the first hour of Forks Over Knives. Fascinating and eye-opening. Will finish it this weekend.
Organic or not, occasionally (or even full-time) cutting meat and dairy from your diet is extremely healthy and the benefits are simply immeasurable. I and many of my family/friends know this first hand. I've juiced fruits and vegtables off and on for a year, the way I feel drastically changes when I attempt to add meat and dairy back into my routine. Some of my friends have done it over 5+ years and have only felt younger and healthier year after year.
I do agree with your link in that there's VERY LITTLE if ANY difference between organic farming and synthetic farming. People who go organic only and feel they have some sort of huge advantage over the rest of us are mistaken.
This post was edited by Red Goodman 15 months ago
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood, nobody!"
Agree. Fasting is not just good for you spiritually, but it helps cleanse the body.
I have no problem whatsoever with fasting meats for a period of time.
Have you seen the documentary Forks Over Knives? There's a reason that other parts of the world hardly deal with cancer, heart disease, hypertension, etc: their diets are primarily plant-based.
That said, I'm looking forward to a ribeye soon.
Yeah, I have not gone cold turkey myself yet, but I limit myself to two meals a week with meat and/or dairy. The rest I eat close to the Forks Over Knives rules (except a few plant based oils [small quantities] her or there in a veggie stir fry).
One more thing for you guys, drinking milk, especially low fat milk, has shown as a potential factor in increasing the risk of developing prostate cancer...something I think we all take seriously. Men should cut it out as much as possible.
"Touch that thang four" - Courtney Upshaw
I don't trust a lot of medical studies. Eggs are bad for you one day, great for you the next. Milk has so many benefits, that I don't think you can say "don't drink it". Calcium, vitamins, etc. Take any study with a grain of salt, and look at things over the long term. Just my opinion.
Me? I can't stand milk, and I NEVER drink it. Still, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer at the age of 39 and had to have my prostate removed.
When you finish the diet can you interpret Babylonian handwriting on the wall?
This post was edited by 442Bama 15 months ago
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That's a little harsh dude. He's had two previous weeks to boast about what he's doing, so it seems to me like he's happy about his results and wants to tell some of the guys on here what's going on in his life. Most BOLers are men, and we all want to feel better. There's no huge news out today...nothing much to talk about...I don't see any issues with this post. It's not 92's fault that your posts got deleted either. If you don't like a topic, don't read it. You knew what it was going to be about before you clicked on it.
I think it depends on your definition of immeasurable. If you mean "incapable of being measured", I would agree, because I'm not sure they exist.
No, but I seem to be picking up Aramaic much easier now.
Fast for yourself, not for god, since he doesn't exist and everything.
What's funny also is that I've replied with the same message here that I do on other threads (not relevant to sports, piss off) which are well received, yet because this post includes some religious garbage everybody wants to bring out the pitchforks. Always good for a laugh, I suppose. Fasting for hesus that's good.
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What's funny also is that I've replied with the same message here that I do on other threads (not relevant to sports, piss off) which are well received, yet because this post includes some religious garbage everybody wants to bring out the pitchforks. Always good for a laugh, I suppose. Fasting for hesus that's gold.
My post wasn't directed to the OP, it was more towards the mods. I was simply asking for some clarification as to what posts are allowed to stay on the RT and which are not. I even said, in the passage you quote, "it's great that the OP accomplished this and he should be lauded."
Never blamed 92 for my posts being moved either.
Nobody came out with pitchforks. In fact, you were largely ignored. And what is religious garbage?
To clarify, are you saying that you're not sure notable health benefits exist in a strong fruits and vegetables lifestyle vs one that consist of meat and dairy?
No, cause that's not what you said. You said " Organic or not, occasionally (or even full-time) cutting meat and dairy from your diet is extremely healthy and the benefits are simply immeasurable." Cutting meat from your diet in no way makes you any healthier.
I've always thought that you debate topics fairly and without getting mean so I have no problem with you at all. But I've obviously seen many of your posts in the political or debating threads, etc.
My point is that you had an issue here because of the religious aspect. And that's ok! Just say so.
Saying that, don't bash the dude for his beliefs. I wouldn't bash or make fun of you for being gay. You of all people should understand tolerance.
Cool. The research results I've seen show otherwise. To each their own right.
To each their own for sure. Just be careful what you read. There's a ton of bad research. I'll give you a brief history of the whole anti-meat/fat argument below:
Prior to the 1960s, it was well-known that saturated fat from meat is healthy. In fact, a 1960s British nutritional journal stated in their opening line: Every woman knows that carbohydrates are fattening. In the 1950s however, one crazy American scientist named Ancel Keys managed to convince the majority of the U.S. that saturated fat and cholesterol are bad for you by publishing the "7 countries study". The countries showed a direct correlation between fat consumption and heart disease. Of course, Keys failed to mention that it was actually a 22 countries study, and he left out the data that didn't fit his hypothesis. From there, the U.S. government went on a whole campaign to demonize saturated fat. The U.S. government made this policy in 1977, and ever since, obesity rates have gone up. Now, we're able to look back at the bad science and see where we ignored blatant evidence to the contrary. In the last 5 to 10 years, studies have come out proving that a high fat, high protein, low carbohydrate diet are best. For further reference, check out the A to Z study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA).
You stated that you support a diet high in fruits and vegetables, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The problem is no one can survive on fruits and vegetables. Cultures throughout history who have tried, always ended up getting conquered by stronger tribes who ate differently. Most vegetarians/vegans supplement their diet with a plethora of beans, corn, soy, grains, and other unhealthy foods which contain lectins that are poison to your body. Meat is a natural source of food which provides protein in its healthiest form. Empirical evidence shows that cultures who eat mostly meat and dairy don't suffer from the same degenerative diseases we suffer from today. They are strong and healthy (see the Masai of Africa for reference). If you're not eating meat, you're probably supplementing soy. I would urge everyone to stay away from soy as it is known to cause cancer and other horrible diseases.
The research is out there, Rex, and it's clear if you just look at it with an open mind. Best of luck to you. RTR
I'm not closed to any info, but have seen very detailed research with quite the opposite results which also goes back to the 50's and covers different countries as well. What's funny is in today's world there is so much info and "hidden agendas" that it is almost impossible to find hard facts because for every "fact" there's a study just as strong that shows the opposite. I love researching this and will continue to look at both sides no question. As for today, I can only tell you that the last year I've felt better than I did 14 years ago when I was 20. The only thing I've changed is I'm juicing my own fruits and vegetables off and on and that is my only intake two weeks at a time (plus water of course). Thanks greatly for the reply and the info, I'll keep researching both sides regardless of what results I'm experiencing today.
Too bad most debates don't end like this
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