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I am a woman and I can say that there is NO way I would ever want to be on the front line!
It is just a fact that women are physically weaker than men, we have more stamina for the longer haul, but I think pound to pound men are just stronger.
If I were in a burning building and there was a 250lb male or a female firefighter there to carry me out, I would ask for the male.
Sorry sugar, but just because you're weak and not down for the front line doesn't mean other women are the same way.
Annndddd, there it is. Typical redneck. Are you having trouble checking BOL on your deerstand with a spit cup in one hand?
You're speaking in absolutes. There are men incapable to performing the rigors needed in infantry. But the men capable of passing the physical requirements are let in. I'm arguing that the women, few they might be, that can pass the SAME requirements should be allowed to serve in combat arms.
And the genders are separate because the AVERAGE male is more capable than the AVERAGE female. But I'm arguing that the 5-10% of women who can handle it should be allowed to serve in those roles.
No need to be insulting. I would just saying what I wanted for me.
I gave birth to 4 babies, I am not weak, but I can not lift as much weight as my husband or my 3 oldest boys. I work out every day, coach a travel softball team and I am in pretty good shape, but toe to toe and man is just stronger. There is nothing wrong with that, because I can guarantee that there are a whole lot a things that I can do and do that a man can not even dream of doing!!
Wow, talk about an irrelevant comparison. There are less than probably .1% of men in this country that could play in the NFL or other men's professional sports. I'm sorry, but playing DB at Alabama takes quite a bit more strength, endurance, and natural talent than being a grunt in the Army or Marines. Ridiculous argument.
You refuse to address my point about if a woman can pass the same physical requirements to be in the infantry as men, why shouldn't they be allowed in? Quit making strawmans.
okay this made me laugh
It's becoming painfully obvious you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I've been in theater while you were back here hating on anyone who's not a Christian, white male, so I don't need you to lecture me on various combat scenarios.
The people who engage in professional sports are some of the most physically gifted humans on the planet. There are very very few people who have the natural talent and will to train to play professional sports. The strength and endurance needed for combat, while high, is no where near the level needed to play pro soccer, or football, or MMA, or whatever.
The 5-10% of women who can successfully complete those physical tasks you outlined above should be able to fight. That's all I'm arguing. Everything else is just you clouding up the argument.
Might as well embrace the change, Cletus. Equality's about to slap you right in the face.
I think you mean "equal opportunity" not "equality".
Yes..they have been working in combat areas in Iraq but not as an initial invasion force...and they should stay in those roles and have performed beautifully, but I would compare those roles to a police officer equivalence..
Do we want male soldiers checking female soldiers for leches and can women with their plumbing have the ability to stay in a swamp up to their waists for a day and not have any medical issues with it..and these issues have nothing to do with the strength or the mental toughness, if Ranger training is too much for most men, how are women going to be able to do it.?
I spent 22.5 years in the US Army and can state emphatically that I do believe the women deserve equal treatment in the military. If they want to serve in the Armor, Artillery, or Infantry in order to be promoted more quickly, more power to them. The only thing I would ask is that they be submitted to the same training and physical testing goals as their male counterparts. Instead, I see nothing but down grading the standards across the board to ensure they allow the females a FAIR (Political speech for Social Justice)right to earn their salaries. I would vote in favor of it also to divert attention from what is going on in this country. Have any of you studied the Constitution and its amendments? Do you know about the 22nd Amendment? It is an important amendment that is in danger now in order to eliminate any further Presidential Elections!
I just heard this morning that the females will be restricted from all Special Ops Training. Already waivers given and the ink is still wet on the agreement. It will present multiple problems if and when a female is captured during combat. You think the male soldiers were treated harshly during Vietnam and the Mid East battles. Wait till they start dismembering the females on the battlefield and hanging their body parts on posts or stuffing them into their mouths. Yes, the media did not report these atrocities of the NViets in honor of Hanoi Jane Fonda and her War Protesters! Then they spat on the soldiers returning from the battlefield. These same peaceniks are running the country now to include the Clintons and other Rich folks on both sides of the aisle in DC.
Women have one advantage over men--women have the ability to become pregnant and avoid combat. How will that be handled?
This post was edited by bamakay 18 months ago
I think we may have more than just those advatages over you guys!
I think one of our best abilities is to let you guys think that ideas are yours. You wouldn't believe how many ideas my husband THINKS he has had!
Actually, I happen to be a female. But not a radical feminists.
The same way it's being handled now?? There are women in the military currently serving a myriad of roles. Opening up a few more MOS's won't change how the military handles pregnancies...
My apologies. I guess I assumed. That doesn't change the fact you failed to address my points, choosing instead to focus on that error. You must agree with the rest I posted. Next.
Why stop in Cali?
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