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OT: Obama cutting benefits for Active Duty...

  • ...military members. I heard some rumors about this, but was unsure if it would go through. Not sure if I'll be able to continue serving to that 20 year mark if I can't take care of my family like I have been able to..

    Any thoughts on this?

    http://m.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/obama-to-cut-medical-benefits-for-active-retired-military-not-union-workers

    phlux

  • Looks like you linked the mobile version of the article. Here's the link to the full site version:

    Obama to cut medical benefits for active, retired military, not union workers - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

    In an effort to cut defense spending, the Obama Administration plans to cut health benefits for active duty and retired military personnel and their families wh

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  • The_Cheat said...

    Looks like you linked the mobile version of the article. Here's the link to the full site version:

    Ah, whoops thanks for the fix there. If I had an up vote left, I'd send one your way.

    phlux

  • I'm active duty and served 4 tours overseas. It pisses me off that I get sent to war zones to fight a war while Millionaires in DC spent tax payer money for their own personal leisure yet my family medical benefits are the ones they propose to cut.

    Ultimately, I think it fails. It will be plastered all over the news and pressure on Congress members who are trying to get re-elected will lead to this failing. The very thing that is wrong with the system(career politicians) are the same reason military members will have support from them...they want to keep their perks and ridiculous salary for as long as they can keep it and pandering to voters and caving to pressure is how that happens.

    bamabum5

  • It doesn't say what the differences in spending will be when they opt into national health care.

    I'm for national health care and it seems like military members, as people who make less than most, would benefit from it.

    TalHawkins112

  • TalHawkins112 said...

    It doesn't say what the differences in spending will be when they opt into national health care.

    I'm for national health care and it seems like military members, as people who make less than most, would benefit from it.

    It doesn't matter for military members per se. I have a Primary Care Manager and can't go to a real doctor unless I am referred which will never happen. I simply don't go to the Doctor anymore. I guess I would if I got shot or stabbed or seriously broke a bone but there's no reason for me to go see the idiots I'm assigned to.

    The issue is for my family. They have the option of getting real medical care. I'm guessing not too much will change unless they impose premiums for going off site for medical care which seems like a possibility. They better not force family members to go to the quacks in our system or I'm getting the heck out of this organization and fast. Veterans are going o be hit the hardest by this law as they have true premiums they pay for their healthcare it will likely skyrocket.

    btw, the medical facility I'm assigned to diagnosed one of my fellow service members with leukemia a couple of weeks ago. She was referred to a real doctor and it turned out to be Lupus. Still bad but how the heck do you diagnose someone with leukemia hen the have Lupus?

    Good luck to all the folks going to national healthcare. I'm sure you will love the system and outstanding care that I'm sure will come with the plan.

    This post was edited by bamabum5 on 3/3/2012 at 8:21 PM

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  • The health care benefit is huge and greatly deserved by those who serve. The decreased relative pay those of us who serve receive is somewhat offset by this benefit. It's also huge for those younger members that likely would not have health care and preventive medicine services if not for their military service, similar to the educational benefits received. Equally concerning is that the union workers WON'T see a cut in their premiums, showing where loyalties and priorities fall. I also would bet the lawmakers pushing this decision, worth/making more than the vast majority of servicemen and women, won't see a change in their health care plans.

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  • bamabum5 said...

    It doesn't matter for military members per se. I have a Primary Care Manager and can't go to a real doctor unless I am referred which will never happen. I simply don't go to the Doctor anymore. I guess I would if I got shot or stabbed or seriously broke a bone but there's no reason for me to go see the idiots I'm assigned to.

    The issue is for my family. They have the option of getting real medical care. I'm guessing not too much will change unless they impose premiums for going off site for medical care which seems like a possibility. They better not force family members to go to the quacks in our system or I'm getting the heck out of this organization and fast. Veterans are going o be hit the hardest by this law as they have true premiums they pay for their healthcare it will likely skyrocket.

    btw, the medical facility I'm assigned to diagnosed one of my fellow service members with leukemia a couple of weeks ago. She was referred to a real doctor and it turned out to be Lupus. Still bad but how the heck do you diagnose someone with leukemia hen the have Lupus?

    Good luck to all the folks going to national healthcare. I'm sure you will love the system and outstanding care that I'm sure will come with the plan.

    Not trying to start something, but military docs are real doctors, of which I am one. I've referred my fair share of Airmen off-base, as you're clearly entitled to with Tricare. Its all about knowing your personal limitations. Lack of an appropriate referral is an issue you should take up with your PCM. PCMs are not specialists, and must make medical decisions with the info they have, which can be misleading if a complete picture is not available (hence, the referral process). By the way, I've several times seen the correct diagnosis made by the PCM upon follow-up after the civilian doc got it wrong.

    Sorry for the rant, but it is disheartening to get labeled as a "lesser" provider because you chose to serve while knowing that your former classmates are making 3-5x more, don't have to worry about things like PRP, deployments, etc., and have an equal amount of experience, yet are "real" providers because they don't wear the uniform. Of course, this isn't the first time I've heard it and probably won't be the last.

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  • BamaXRay said...

    Not trying to start something, but military docs are real doctors, of which I am one. I've referred my fair share of Airmen off-base, as you're clearly entitled to with Tricare. Its all about knowing your personal limitations. Lack of an appropriate referral is an issue you should take up with your PCM. PCMs are not specialists, and must make medical decisions with the info they have, which can be misleading if a complete picture is not available (hence, the referral process). By the way, I've several times seen the correct diagnosis made by the PCM upon follow-up after the civilian doc got it wrong.

    Sorry for the rant, but it is disheartening to get labeled as a "lesser" provider because you chose to serve while knowing that your former classmates are making 3-5x more, don't have to worry about things like PRP, deployments, etc., and have an equal amount of experience, yet are "real" providers because they don't wear the uniform. Of course, this isn't the first time I've heard it and probably won't be the last.

    sorry if you are offended but I'm talking from personal experience. I won't let my family take one step inside Eisenhower Medical Center at Fort Gordon or into Kimborough Ambulatory Care Center ever again. The system is a complete joke and I have yet to see anyone receive similar care from these places as they would in the private sector.

    I don't think you are a lesser person and you might be a all qualified doctor but the care is not even close to the same level. If you can't see it, you are being objective...and that's alright since you work in the system. I don't expect you to see things the way I do. Fact is, I simply avoid medical care when I could use it because I don't trust the that the care I'm getting will be up to par. It's a shame that it is this way. I'm not alone in my feelings...most of the active duty personnel(especially the ones with families) feel much the same way I do. I currently have my family enrolled in the Johns Hopkins system but many areas with military personnel don't have this option. I feel sorry for those individuals/families.

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