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bamabum5 said...
I'm not a doctor and I know nothing about drug use but any argument between addicts/stoners vs drug counselors and I'm siding with the drug counselor every time. Why would I listen to stoners making excuses for why they won't put the stuff down for good?
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I'm not a doctor and I know nothing about drug use but any argument between addicts/stoners vs drug counselors and I'm siding with the drug counselor every time. Why would I listen to stoners making excuses for why they won't put the stuff down for good?
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Ashevillain said...
I think your the misinformed one. Smoke weed for ten years. Obviously, if you smokes that long, you enjoy it. It's gonna suck, but you won't be twitching or vomiting for days. Now smoke crack, eat painkillers, or shoot heroin for ten years. There's a huge difference.
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I'm not a doctor and I know nothing about drug use but any argument between addicts/stoners vs drug counselors and I'm siding with the drug counselor every time. Why would I listen to stoners making excuses for why they won't put the stuff down for good?
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I'm not a doctor and I know nothing about drug use but any argument between addicts/stoners vs drug counselors and I'm siding with the drug counselor every time. Why would I listen to stoners making excuses for why they won't put the stuff down for good?
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Okay, i must have mistaken one of your post with anothers.
So, do you think weed is more addictive than sweets? Is it more addictive than sex? Is weed more addictive than porn? How about alcohol?
It'd be nice to get the counselors opinion on these questions.
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For future reference, in case you ever find yourself in a situation where it matters, find out if the drug counselor in question speaks from personal experience or has been trained in a classroom. If it is the latter, take what they say with a grain of salt. I'm not saying they're always wrong but anytime their opinion and that of someone who has been through the ringer differs, the educated counselor is almost always wrong.
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yes, the physical withdrawal is VERY different. But, the mental and psychological "need" for that smoke, that pill, that drink, that "touch", that di*k, that v*gina, that rush, that food, that candy, that coffee, etc., is ALL there. We are all wired differently and while some can just "put it down" and walk away, never to touch it again, there are many of us who cannot. It leaves feelings of dysphoria, of suicidal depression, of anhedonia, of "just wanting to die". The psychological part of withdrawal of ANYTHING is the hardest part that we as a human race have yet to get a hold of.
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Ashevillain said...
Who says I'm an addict our a stoner. I'm just a guy who will smoke weed every one and a while. Probably far less than you drink beer or liquor.
So if you drink a beer at a party, should i call you a drunk? Of course not. I'm just a hard working, educated libertarian that thinks it's stupid that the government wastes our tax dollars enforcing a law that is absurd. I've known good people get into the system over this, and i think it needs to end.
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Nah. I think it is equally addictive. Some folks smoke weed without getting addicted just like others pound vag without getting addicted but to say neither can lead certain people to a place they choose it over all else is ignorant. Lots of people play with heroin and put it away but, like everything else, some people take it too far and it rules their life. Weed certainly does that to people.
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Bama2006 said...
You are clearly ignorant on this topic. Psychological dependence is taught in every medical school in this country and is absolutely a form of "addiction". It has a biochemical basis just as physical dependence does, albeit a different pathway. I am not hating on smokers because, aside from abiding by the laws of a land, I don't find it ethically wrong to smoke so long as it doesn't impinge on others, but your argument that psychological dependence Ian real is about as far from the facts as possible.
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To the huy who says "mental addiction isnt real", You are clearly ignorant on this topic. Psychological dependence is taught in every medical school in this country and is absolutely a form of "addiction". It has a biochemical basis just as physical dependence does, albeit a different pathway. I am not hating on smokers because, aside from abiding by the laws of a land, I don't find it ethically wrong to smoke so long as it doesn't impinge on others, but your argument that psychological dependence isn't real is about as far from the facts as possible.
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Anything that is fun or feels can have psychologically addictive properties, but saying marijuana should be illegal because it's addictive is a bullshyte reason. If we ban everything because of psychologically addictive reasons, then we might as well be amish.
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I agree, and there is no doubt a element of psychical addiction to marijuana,.our anything for that matter.
Maybe I've confused an addiction debate or a legalization debate.
I just know it's much easier to get drugs from a drug dealer than beer from a grocery store (except maybe here in louisiana). I'd rather see it legalized, taxed, and used to finance roads, education, or blows jobs for the elderly than to continue to waste money enforcing a law that causes more harm to society than benefits it creates.
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drawstrang said...
You're confusing an addict for a loser. People who go to prison do so because they made poor choices, and will almost always make poor choices, because they are losers. Just because they smoke weed in addition to being a waste to society is irrelevant. It's laughable that you think your co-workers and upper mgmt don't smoke. Ever hear of Steve Jobs? Or maybe for us southerns, Ted Turner?
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