The Water Cooler

I think CNS has done a little better with the "mess" than PBO.

Idiot

Is this a competition between Obama and the one guy who isn't eligible to challenge him?

Nope, it is about policy...and Romney is slinging the same deregulation, tax break for people who make money off-shore policy that put this country in this mess. Guys like McCain and Romney used to be good statesmen until they were changed by the new Republican Party. I will admit that none of the choices are good, but what those that pull the strings for the Repubs are doing to this country is the highest form of treason, and is an attack on humanity. I have no problem giving tax incentives and capital gains to those who create jobs and opportunities for Americans, but we cannot continue to punish the middle class in favor of people who do not care about them. All that will do is destroy the middle class, destroy the country, and signal to those that made all the money to move on to their retirement location of choice. All Obama is trying to do is see that taxes go back to Reagan's policies, but then again, even he is too liberal for this Republican party.

Haha. He should probably Google that term before using it again. You can't take an economic rant seriously when the person doesn't even understand the basics.

Difference being, Coach Saban is the man and obama is an idiot.

Explain how the government would run better under Ron Paul, please.

I was riffing on your Anti-Two Party silliness. The people get the government they want. If they wanted a 3rd, 4th, or 5th option, they'd get it.

i have a hard time criticizing the current pres when not only has he helped repair the economy but he had to follow the TRUE worst president ever, a guy that was just plain stupid and had no business in politics.........and 90% of the hate for obama is purely out of the color of his skin esp in the south

You've got it wrong. Mike Shula was stability for our program when we needed it most. He was a son that came home to help out his parents in a time of need. This job was too big for him, but I'm thankful every day for Mike Shula and what he has done for Alabama football. We all saw the look on his face during the Auburn game. We all saw him hiding behind his players on the sidelines in the closing moments. But he is one of us. But we shouldn't turn our backs on one of our own.

^Further proof that Obama is the candidate of smart people.

This thread proves one thing. Most people blindly see their side of the argument.

I do not like Obama. I did not like Bush, Jr. Bush, Jr. created a mess, and Obama has only added to the mess. Both sides play to their constituency, and rarely really consider what is long term best for the country. Clinton was a scumbag morally, but actually a "good" president in terms of the overall status of the country. It is a fact that when Clinton left office, the budget was in the black and we were not in any wars. I'm sure those who only one side will argue Clinton and his policies had nothing to do with it, but it is a fact. Similarly, Nixon was actually a "very good" president in terms of what happened to the country, but unfortunately was involved in covering up illegal activity (Watergate). The economy made progress under Nixon, he opened up trade with other countries, and he got us out of a bad war. Again, those who see only one side will argue against the good things accomplished by Nixon.

It does bother me that people use terms like "idiot" to describe either Obama or Bush. I may not like their policies, etc. and think they make poor decisions and are beholding to the wrong people, but they are more educated and probably have higher IQs than the people labeling them that way, and neither Obama nor Bush are "idiots". I hate the lack of civility in politics. Great role models for our kids to see our politicians bicker, call each other names, and basically act like kids who do not get their way.

It is our fault as voters. We elect "politicians" and not "leaders". Think about it, is Romney or Obama either one even close to the "best and brightest" this country has to offer to lead this country? If so, God help us down the road.